I think North used to do this.

Not sure if it's still a selling point.

Check out the North website, they are pushing >>one mast for all sails<<. However, it requires the use of one of their mast Xtenders, either a 40 cm or 50 cm. I have the 50 cm and have used it with my 430 North XC for an '06 6.9 Duke. It's really is too loose for my tastes, but it does work. A 460 would serve me much better, but I have had some enjoyable sailing days using the extender and the 6.9. I bought a used '08 5.9 Duke recently, and it rigs correctly on the 430. I could put a 5.0, 5.4 and 6.4 on this mast, too. I may just buy a 5.0, but the recommended mast is a 400 so I figure that won't make for the best rig. You can put all the Drive sails, 4.7 to 7.0 on one mast, a 430. However, it is much easier to put different sized older sails on one mast, those that predate the loose leach technology. Right now, I keep three sails, a 5.0, 6.0 and 7.1 in Florida which rig with one boom and a 460 mast. The smaller two are old World sails from the early 90's, but the 7.1 is an '04 Pacific Synthesis. I sail them with an older board, too. Since I was restricted in the amount of equipment I could bring down there, that was what I brought.

Evil one, check out NP Zen - one mast, one boom, five sails, 4.9 - 7.2 on a 430 mast. No idea what they're like but applaud they concept.

www.neilpryde.com/?Itemid=59&id=20&option=com_npproducts&view=detail

i run my KA kult's on one mast. 6.4, 5.8, 5,3 have for a few years now.

recently bought a 400 skinny so now can get 6.4 down to 3.7 on 2 masts.

the simmer addict (freeride) is a one mast fits all. 7.2 down to 4.8 on a 430 mast
neil pryde zen - 7.2 down to 4.9 on a 430 mast.

Ive got Sailworks Revos - a 90's model 5.6 , 2003- 5m , 2005 - 4.2m , early 90's 3.3m & they all rig on my 430 lipstick(?) mast with an extension. I have a little plastic cap extension thingy for the 5.6m that sits on the top of the mast but they all set ok. Not that Im an expert but they seem ok & do the job.

I did a trip arround the world in 2003 - 2004 once and I had one mast, 1 boom and 3 sails...I actually did Cairns to Adelaide..sailed so many spots! My quiver, 5.2, 4.2, 3.7 Ezzy wave SE and a skinny 400. The specs require 430, 400 and 370...but be serious..unless you have a lot of money, you don't need 3 masts for that, a 40cm mast extension and an adjustable head cap on the sails...Neil Pryde don't offer that(adjutable head) but Ezzy offer that. I also have 6.3 and 5.2 who goes on the same 430..but for the trip I traveled light..3 sails, 1 boom, 1 mast, 1 75L wave board(that was a bit small for the east coast) and a surfboard. On Hawaii and NZ..the board was a bit big...so no magic solution. Yes North was promoting 1 mast quiver, but it wasn't on all sails and for sure not on specilized sails...in 2010 doesn't heard that?

Ezzy handle longer mast or shorter mast than the best mast option on the specs, most sails does anyways.
While I was on Maui, my girlfriend had a Simmer quiver..and the 5.3 (430 mast specs) wasn't able to handle the 400cm mast. The sails was not good at all..and when geared up with the 430..that was a great sail.so some company seems to be more specs oriented.

For sails you are not using a lot..in my quiver I'm usin the 3.3 and the 3.7(and too much gap btw)...I stuck with the 400cm not mater what.

cheers.
nord_roi

Kokopelli said...

I have always gone for the one mast - one boom option. Chinook 152 - 207 and an older NP 460 mast. Searching around a bit for sails that suit has taken a little longer but I feel that it is worth the trouble when I have to load the family and all the equipment in the car at once. I now have an Aerotech 4.7, Ezzy Wave SE 5.0, Gaastra CX2 5.7 (a little tired now), a NP Supersonic 6.7 and an NP Jet 7.4 While some of them are a bit old they provide good sizing to cover a decent range of conditions. For me the ease of packing gear and when $$$ and space are short it makes it definitely worth seeking out a brand of sail to rig on one mast and boom (if it suits your needs.) I am sure many will find that this too restricting but it works for me and my bank account.

Nice one NordRoi, I agree and would not hesitate in buying a complete quiver of Ezzy Sails if $$$ would allow (some day eh!). They handle wear and tear extremely well, rig easily and set very well with extensions and variable head straps and they sure are sweet to use. Cheers

The Loft sails generally have a good mast tolerance, I'm using a 460 from 5.7 up to 7.8. My 5.7 and 6.0 are made for 430's but being a bit heavier I find the smaller sails still work well on a bigger mast. As mark said the adjustable top sails are a worth looking out for as the options are open .

http://www.loftsails.com/att/2009/Loftsails2009specifications.pdf

Yer i can rig 3 of my Severne Blades on the same size mast 5.0m, 5.3m and a 5.7m on a 430 Severne Redline RDM, easy, and they all rig perfect..

That 4.5 would be getting pretty far down the mast right? Perhpas a 20cm of so? I was talking ideal mast.....

FlickySpinny said...

Of course, you can always go with the one-and-a-half mast concept courtesy of Ezzy. Their RDM masts can be bought in seperate bottom and top sections, so if you have a 430 mast and need to rig a big sail, you add a 430 bottom section to a 460 top section (takes the mast length to approx 445) and add a 30/40/50cm extension.

So Ezzy masts are not the cheapest things in the world, but I really rate them and reckon that it's going to be a long long time before I need to buy another mast.

More information: www.ezzy.com/masts/mast-overview/

I had recently planned to buy one-and-a-half new Ezzy rdm's on a recent shopping trip to Perth but managed to pickup a 400 rdm as well as a 430 in almost new condition. The flexibility of being able to 'build' either a 400, 415 or 430 mast as well as slightly altering the bend curves for different brand sails really appeals to me, not to mention only having to replace a half section if you happen to break one (out of warranty period). According to Dave Ezzy, it's also possible to mix n' match shorter bottoms with much longer tops, i.e. like a 370 bottom with a 430 top, though you'd probably need to know a bit about how the bend curve changes to do this successfully.

Prior to getting the Ezzy rdm's, I have been mix n' matching NP X6 masts for quite a few years, being able to rig a 4.4 (NP with adjustable head), 4.7, 5.3 & 6.0 on 1 1/2 X6 masts. This link shows what can be done with these masts:
www.peterman.dk/windsurf-NP-X6-mast-study-780gb.htm

I really can't understand why other manufacturers apart from Ezzy don't embrace the concept of mixing and matching mast halves to reduce the amount of masts required as well as the somewhat high cost of updating to new rig components (especially when going from sdm to rdm or when changing to different brand sails with different mast requirements).

Three reasons that come to mind when I think of this lack of flexibility is:

SELL-SELL-SELL!!! (i.e. GREED-GREED-GREED!!!)

Gestalt said...

i run my KA kult's on one mast. 6.4, 5.8, 5,3 have for a few years now.

recently bought a 400 skinny so now can get 6.4 down to 3.7 on 2 masts.

the simmer addict (freeride) is a one mast fits all. 7.2 down to 4.8 on a 430 mast
neil pryde zen - 7.2 down to 4.9 on a 430 mast.

Hey Gestalt,

Have you had a chance to sail the 6.4 Kult with both sdm and rdm and if you've tried this, how different did the Kult handle/perform?

I run the following sails on a 400 powerex skinny:
4.0 north ice (2006 I think)
4.5 north duke (2006)
5.0 north ice (2007)
5.6 simmer icon (2008) (I used to have a 2007 5.7 ice before this)

Whilst the 4.0 and 5.6 don't rig perfectly I am pretty happy with it as a 4 sail/1 mast quiver. I think if I were to change anything I would look at getting the Ezzy masts so that I could have a 400 and a 415 mast.

Hi Guys
FYI as this is relevant to the topic of what sails can be rigged on one mast.

The tushingham storms form 4.5 to 6.25 all rig on a 430cm mast, sdm or rdm.
The tushingham rocks from 4.5m to 6.0m all rig on a 430cm mast, sdm or rdm.
The tushingham t-bird 6.0 and 6.5m will also rig on a 430cm mast.
Cheers

Mark _australia said...


That 5.6 must be pretty twisted off and gutless on a 400!!! Mine rigs sweet on a 430, the 5.3 is also cut for a 430, the next one down is 5.0 and that is designed for a 400.... so you are waaayyyy off manufacturers specs. I would think it pretty hard to use?

The 5.6 doesn't rig perfectly but still has more guts than my old 5.7 ice. It works fine in waves - both front and backside. The only time it isn't great is when it's rotating at the end of gybes but that's probably partly my bad technique