wateva.. i've been surfin the point like the last 3 months almost evry day b4 skool and its neva packed.. on a siik day only eva like 15 ppl out.. ya just gotta get there at about 6:30 ish then bail at like 8:30 wen evry 1 else stars rockin up. gettin up a bit earlier is worth how many waves you'll get!