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bolgo
bolgo
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17 Aug 2010 11:52am
poor bastard!
RIP

doggie
doggie
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17 Aug 2010 12:51pm
Has a name been relesed yet?
62mac
62mac
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17 Aug 2010 1:00pm
doggie said...

Has a name been relesed yet?


No doggie,but a story on news.com.au
tightlines
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airhead
airhead
WA
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17 Aug 2010 2:07pm
Police say the man was surfing south of South Point...

Anyone know if this was at South Point, around the corner at Cobblestones or further down at Left Handers?
Dunedinite
Dunedinite
WA
184 posts
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17 Aug 2010 2:28pm
RIP. I thought most of the The great whites usually come down the coast with the whales in Oct/Nov. Do you reckon this is a local one?
Maybe it's the same one that has 'a taste for it'

"if ya wanna dance, then sometimes you have to pay the band'
Poor bugger. I hope he's in surfing nirvana now.
trevor1
trevor1
WA
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17 Aug 2010 2:47pm
At South Point.

Seals were first seen flying past by guys out at North Point

Seals then seen thrashing about at inside Huzzas.

Victim made it to shore where rescusitated.

Died at, or on way to hospital.
fuall
fuall
WA
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17 Aug 2010 4:59pm
theres a big bastard seal hanging around Perth's Northern reefs.
KEARNSY
KEARNSY
WA
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17 Aug 2010 5:30pm
Really moving stuff. Im sorry to anyone who has to go doing the thing they love, it just doesnt seem fair.

Rest in peace my brother, may you now get barreled for eternity..........

Kearnsy
jackforbes
jackforbes
WA
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17 Aug 2010 5:53pm
Better than dying doing something you hate.

Thoughts and condolences to the family, I'd hate to think of anyone having to get that call.
rscaife
rscaife
WA
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17 Aug 2010 7:29pm
I vote for shark nets.
synsies1000
synsies1000
WA
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17 Aug 2010 8:04pm
just like the rest of us normal working family dads getting a surf in before heading back for work.....
RIP mate. thoughts are with you and your wife and 2 children.
latlong
latlong
WA
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18 Aug 2010 10:07pm
Sends a chill up the spine thinking of what can happen when your having a surf on your own. Do it all the time and know heaps who go the early to beat the hassel of others. No grudge against the critters in the water, its their domain we're just visitors.
synsies1000
synsies1000
WA
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26 Aug 2010 7:11pm
especially when there been more sightings since then. North point had another white apperance while everybody was doing the wake at huzzas. Now another yesterday, the next bay north...please keep your eyes open.
WATER MAN
WATER MAN
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19 Sep 2010 12:04pm
I know there are a lot of folk who love the ocean and feel if they die in the sea it is a risk they would never trade.
Well I am sorry I am not one of those people.
There are so many whites out in the water now it is harder to feel safe in any depth water.

The type of sharks being killed in the thousands for food are not killing machines like the white.

If I get taken by a shark I want every one to know it is not the way I want to go.
These sharks are crazy. Opening the belly contents of a white can show all sorts of strange objects that have been eaten, number plates, shoes, and other bits of crap.
I would love to see the whites managed to a safe number for everybody's safety.

I feel sorry for the family, most of all his young children.
Please can something be done before another child has to go through life having the most important person taken away from them.

May this mans life be remembered for beter things to come.
1joe
1joe
WA
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19 Sep 2010 3:49pm
WATER MAN said...

I know there are a lot of folk who love the ocean and feel if they die in the sea it is a risk they would never trade.
Well I am sorry I am not one of those people.
There are so many whites out in the water now it is harder to feel safe in any depth water.

The type of sharks being killed in the thousands for food are not killing machines like the white.

If I get taken by a shark I want every one to know it is not the way I want to go.
These sharks are crazy. Opening the belly contents of a white can show all sorts of strange objects that have been eaten, number plates, shoes, and other bits of crap.
I would love to see the whites managed to a safe number for everybody's safety.

I feel sorry for the family, most of all his young children.
Please can something be done before another child has to go through life having the most important person taken away from them.

May this mans life be remembered for beter things to come.


WTF!! Whats a "safe number"?

0??

The way I want to go is definately not by getting chomped on by a shark either mate.

You cant forget that the ocean where sharks live Water Man. They dont come onto dry land and eat us!!

Sounds like you may need to take up a land based hobby. Live and let live. We're all aware of the risks when we paddle out.

Anyway, I wonder if thats what the whites are doing...... managing the surfers to a "safe number"?
WATER MAN
WATER MAN
WA
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19 Sep 2010 6:17pm
I grew up in the late 70's 80's and 90's after that I am just living. During this time there were stuff all shark attacks in WA. I could go to the beach with a reasonable feeling of safety. Now the whites are protected we are experiencing a record amount of sightings, fatal attacks and fishing boats being attacked and harrased.
Call me old fasioned but we are the top of the food chain cause we have a brain that is used to survive, and the way to survive the white is too.......
EAT THE ******* FIRST.
A farmer will not let a wild dingo eat his flock of sheep, or roos eat a crop of grain and yes the farm is in the home of both animals but they manage the problem.
The GWS is not in any trouble of being a wiped out animal any more.
1joe
1joe
WA
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20 Sep 2010 8:34pm
I do agree that there is more whites in the water now than when they were being killed, but do you think maybe the reason there's more sightings, attacks harrassings etc is due to more population around our coast? There is not only more people in and around the water but also we are screwing up the "food chain" of the ocean.
I can remember some pretty good fishing trips off the metro area in years gone by but it doesnt happen anymore. The stuff we are taking from the sea and eating is thier food too.

You are right about 1 thing though, a farmer will not let a wild dingo eat his flock of sheep, but the farmer and the dingo both need the sheep to survive. Thats life and death.

Surfing, kiting, skurfing, windsurfing, diving, swimming, wave skiing etc etc etc is not a neccesity of life. Sure we all go bonkers if we dont have our little breaks from the everyday grind now and again but my point is we DONT have to enter the ocean to survive.

What your saying is we should kill the whites so we can enjoy the ocean because..... WE CAN. In my opinion thats not really fair.
Even though the thought of them out there scares the life out of me!
Woodo
Woodo
WA
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24 Sep 2010 3:20pm
Eye for an eye i say. If they kill they should be killed. Now i'm not saying after an attack to go out on a mass slaughter of these beasts but if a person is attacked and the offending shark is followed by boat, chopper or plane as in the case of the one off cott that killed that poor bloke in waist deep water then it should be destroyed. They have no known predator so their numbers are only going to increase, which inevitably will lead to more attacks be it due to more sharks or more ocean goers.
doggie
doggie
WA
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24 Sep 2010 4:00pm
@ Woodo, mate what we need to do is take their food source back out to sea. With over fishing the seals ect that are their food source are comming closer to shore looking for food. The whites & tigers follow them, then we get mistaken for food. It is rare that a GWS takes a whole human as they dont like us, we are junk food to them as they can taste or sence how much fat we have in our blood. Thats why the bodies of victims are nearly always found at the scene.
Killing a shark because it thought someone was a seal isnt right IMO, plus I recon you would have a hard time getting a positive ID as they all look the same from a distance so how do you know you have the right shark??
Woodo
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24 Sep 2010 5:00pm
toatlly agree with ya doggie that they are only coming in for food and we are only mistaken for something that is their normal prey, but ya can't tell me that the attack at south point, the one just around the corner near cobblestones i think, the one at walpole or the one down on the south coast near albany were due to over fishing and lack of food. i don't doubt in any way that they have no intersest in eating us for food, and them having a bite is there way of having a feel of what it is they may want to eat. the poor dude that got eaten in safety bay while snorkling for crabs was taken by a 5 metre white. there a few whites that are known to live behind penguin island cause it's an easy food source plus the wreck in warnbro sound is a known congration for pink snapper at the right time of year. surely these sharks are in the area cause there is a known readily available food source for them. unfortunately the diver was in the wrong place at the wrong time. a few days later a shark of the same size in exactly the same area harrassed a couple of guys crabbing in their dingy for about 15 minutes forcing them to go in. should that shark be destroyed? no. it is impossible to tell if it was the same shark. however the shark that killed ken crew at cott was chased away from the beach by clubbies, followed in the zodiac, then picked up by helicopter and then followed by water police and fisheries for over an hour. should this shark have been destroyed? in my opinion yes. they had a positive identification on a shark that had just taken away man's life. now this is only my opinion and i know everyone will have and has their own. in no way would any number of attacks ever detere me from doing the things i love in the ocean but put it this way. if a croc attacks and kills someone up north, it is hunted down and killed. personally i don't see the difference between a croc killing a man or a shark killing a man. whites are far from an endagered species anymore...
pooman
pooman
WA
293 posts
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24 Sep 2010 5:31pm
Just thought I'd to this.... a few of the boys had a scare in the water at Secret Harbour on Tuesday morning on account of a nice sized grey suit chasing snapper through the line up. There's also been remnants of snapper washed up on the beach this week.
doggie
doggie
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24 Sep 2010 5:47pm
Woodo said...

toatlly agree with ya doggie that they are only coming in for food and we are only mistaken for something that is their normal prey, but ya can't tell me that the attack at south point, the one just around the corner near cobblestones i think, the one at walpole or the one down on the south coast near albany were due to over fishing and lack of food. i don't doubt in any way that they have no intersest in eating us for food, and them having a bite is there way of having a feel of what it is they may want to eat. the poor dude that got eaten in safety bay while snorkling for crabs was taken by a 5 metre white. there a few whites that are known to live behind penguin island cause it's an easy food source plus the wreck in warnbro sound is a known congration for pink snapper at the right time of year. surely these sharks are in the area cause there is a known readily available food source for them. unfortunately the diver was in the wrong place at the wrong time. a few days later a shark of the same size in exactly the same area harrassed a couple of guys crabbing in their dingy for about 15 minutes forcing them to go in. should that shark be destroyed? no. it is impossible to tell if it was the same shark. however the shark that killed ken crew at cott was chased away from the beach by clubbies, followed in the zodiac, then picked up by helicopter and then followed by water police and fisheries for over an hour. should this shark have been destroyed? in my opinion yes. they had a positive identification on a shark that had just taken away man's life. now this is only my opinion and i know everyone will have and has their own. in no way would any number of attacks ever detere me from doing the things i love in the ocean but put it this way. if a croc attacks and kills someone up north, it is hunted down and killed. personally i don't see the difference between a croc killing a man or a shark killing a man. whites are far from an endagered species anymore...


Ok, so they are protected, the fish are not. So more GWS and less fish = more sightings & more attacks. I saw the footage of that shark that killed Ken Crew and they followed it as you say but at the end of the day sharks dont have blood lust like a dog or a big cat. They are just doing what they do and we get in their way.
IMO crocs are different alltogether, they will hunt and hide, wait untill prey is close then go for it. They are also very territorial and humans are deff on the menu where sharks are not really territorial like crocs.
I think that maybe the CSIRO or whateva they are called now should look at tagging as many sharks as they can and moniter how many there are and maybe do a cull every two one or two years like they do with roos ect, just so the numbers dont get out of hand. In saying that tho, GWSs that have had tracking devices put on them show that they travel all the way from WA to South Africa and to South Australia and further so the numbers would have to be going up and down all the time.

Buggered if I know how to fix the problem if it can be fixed!!

Go the Saints!!!!
doggie
doggie
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24 Sep 2010 5:48pm
pooman said...

Just thought I'd to this.... a few of the boys had a scare in the water at Secret Harbour on Tuesday morning on account of a nice sized grey suit chasing snapper through the line up. There's also been remnants of snapper washed up on the beach this week.


The buggers are very hungry, did they know what type of shark it was?
1joe
1joe
WA
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24 Sep 2010 10:37pm
Im trying to get the mobile phone footage off a mate, and when i do ill post it. They were fishing about a month ago 9 miles off 2 rocks when a rather large GWS swam around the sea anchor and came up to the side of the boat to see what was goin on! It got soo close they were touching it with the end of thier fishing rods....
au_rick
au_rick
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30 Sep 2010 11:05am
anyone consider that whales have anything to do with the number of GWS close to the coast ?

we stopped whaling in 1981, back in the 80's we used to sit on Cape Byron with binoculars to count the whales migrating waaayyy off in the distance.

now that we have stopped hunting them and the new generations are not scared of humans they swim right into bays all up and down the coast (east and west).

i've seen whales within ~100 of the beach in Queensland, SA and WA (a few weeks ago two humpbacks swan right up to me on a scuba dive) and guess what ? the sharks follow their migration, as do Orca's (also seen recently off the south west W.A. coast)

doggie
doggie
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30 Sep 2010 12:35pm
Good point au_rick, didnt think of that. The sharks would be going for the young and injured ect. And its the same time of year that the whales always come up this way.
There was a whale close to the beach @ Triggs about two months ago, it swam just outside of the break and had its tail right out of the water. Awesome stuff, great to see so close in
jackforbes
jackforbes
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7 Oct 2010 11:15pm
au_rick said...

anyone consider that whales have anything to do with the number of GWS close to the coast ?

...



...so if we start harpooning the whales before they get too near the coast, the great white problem will go away!

Easy!
Drewm
Drewm
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9 Oct 2010 3:29pm
all good points but you can't go around knockin' off sharks because they take a chomp out of ol' mates leg and he dies.

I don't want to go that way but it's selfish of us to go around killing them to make our lives more enjoyable. We are part of the food chain, it's a shame it happens but it is part of life.

Besides, how many people swim in the ocean WORLDWIDE?

how many people are attacked by sharks each year WORLDWIDE?

i reckon it'd have to be below 1%

don't be such selfish people, go diving with whites and see what beautiful creatures they are.... after all, they may take out a few of our however many billion population each year and that sucks. But we do much worse in return, we rape the earth and in general give stuff all back.

We also live in an area that's highly populated by sharks. thousands of ppl swim each day, one's injured/killed every few months, in a bad year. not bad odd's i reckon
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