agro in the surf....

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markass
markass
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WA, 143 posts
30 Jan 2012 12:29pm
I thought i'd share this great read from another forum....anyone got any similar stories? Not sure how common this is I've never experienced it on the west coast, but not saying it doesn't happen.


"The inlaws live in a beautiful part of the world. Whilst the surf can get world class at times it is mostly just fun, and uncrowded. Which is more than fine. In factsome locations are so uncrowded that it is like surfing in a different era. One spot i call 1972 due to the fact that it reminds me of a scene from morning of the earth. Crystal clear zippering walls with barely a soul out- generally one or two others. This coupled with the verdant tree lined headland and sand bottom makes it a pleasure to surf , as opposed as it is to the unforgiving desert and limestone/ coral reefs i'm used to.
But i had never visited during the holiday season...till now. This tranquil lineup had transformed to a seething mass of humanity. All manner of craft coating the formerly pristine line up. As this spot has somehow slipped the radar of the herd, the crew consisted mostly of dads and kids and the less than commited crew. And the line up worked. Somehow it was fun and egalitarian and everyone got a slice of the pie.
Whilst not exactly morning of the earth anymore the vibe was great. I surfed for six hours straight,like a grom. Ball rash from so many run arounds, nipples like i had taken a cheese grater to them. Even toked on a joint at around the three hour mark that a couple of crew were burning on the jump off rock. Life was good.
Then i noticed a new face in the lineup, with a couple of cronies in tow , talking in an exaggerated volume and jostling the take off spot. With a sweep running down the point and a jump rock granting access to pole position, Loud Mouth was berating anyone entering the lineup, loudly proclaiming how snakes jumping staight to the take off position would not be tolerated and how they would be dealt with. The accused being mainly mid teen lidders. The good feeling permeating the lineup rapidly evaporated , but who gives a **** ? I was surfed out and ready for one to shore. Just make it a good one eh ? No hurry, the walk up the beach was gonna make my thighs bleed anyway.
So i waited in pole position, a few meagre sets passed before my wave came. I started
to paddle noticing Loud Mouth paddling furiously from his recent entry off the jump rock declaring possesion. Whatever ****stick, i'm going. So i went. Loud Mouth went too, i faded and Loud Mouth and myself went over the falls as one.
He came up swearing blue murder.
"You dinged me board! on the beach ****" he said. First time i'd ever heard it in real life. Still did not really give a ****. Surfed with many tools over many surfs and knew a blow hard when i heard one. Caught the next whitewash, my session was corrupted and i was spent anyway.
Loud Mouth caught it too and a weird tension was between us as we exited the water, metres apart. I could plainly see the bitter contempt and rage on his face, but i could also see doubt as i had inadvertently called his bluff by coming in even though it was not for his benefit. We walked up the beach a few steps before he addressed me as the **** that ruined his surf. I told him where he stood in my eyes
What happened next seemed to occur in the blink of an eye. He dropped his board on the sand and so, it seems, did i. I was expecting more front , instead Loud Mouth punched me fair in the face.
Let's get this straight. I'm no fighter. I have not been in a sober fight since primary school, and the pissed scuffles were just that, scuffles. But i do like to stay fit. And a favoured way of fitness for me is hitting a heavy punching bag, the height and range of which was exactly the same as this pricks face. I wore the punch and before even i knew what had happened my right fist shot out and connected with Loud Mouth's mouth.
It was only a jab but the cocksucker reeled,backed off and took stock. This was not part of his plan. I was as suprised as he was. I know i'm not a coward but i had never fronted another man face to face and this was new territory. I still wasn't angry, hours of surfing and exertion had mellowed me and given me a bit of distance from the pain and affront of being physicaly assaulted.
So we stood there for a period , wordless. Loud Mouth seemed hesitant, his bitterness satisfied after spreading his hate so obviously and his two dimensional bullying bravery vanishing after his chosen victim did not roll over pleading mercy.
For a further few seconds relative normality remained. Without agreement we both took a step back and picked up our surfboards. In retrospect i see this as a point of reflection for us both, the slandering continued, by now he had assumed the role of unapologetic local valouriously facing down the invasion of neophyte blow in invaders, i was still processing just what had happened, from mellow and happy to dragged into a whirlpool of bitterness and spite. For seemingly the first time since reaching the beach i realised what was happening. I looked around at the at the beach that i was so accustomed to being empty and saw the holiday crowds, the families formerly enjoying a festive summer day staring in open mouth shock at what was happening before their eyes.
That was when the madness set in. I looked at the blue sky and the white sand and realty, or unreality, set in. I started to blather, i could not tell you for certain what i was saying but it was lost mans dribble refering to the beautiful day and how this **** had destroyed it with malicious intent. He started to walk along the beach cursing me over his shoulder, i think he saw in me something that i was not consciously aware of myself and his desire for confrontation was gone.
We walked in lock step along the beach as though to jump back off the point, myself slightly behind, fermenting, when we reached his friends. His bravado reappeared, turning to face me he addressed his friends, a half dozen guys and girls staked out against the wire guarding the dunes, he described my crimes as a blowin, an unwelcome abhorration, i saw the girls sneer as i raved about being from somewhere else, somewhere where people are judged on their merits in the surf. I recollect displeasure on their faces when they realised i wasn't from a city with inferior waves to theirs.
Then the red mist came over me
It was the assumed resentment of the women that really got me.
The smug superiority of some small minded no- one **** moll that set me off. I turned to face Loud Mouth in front of his ****ing piece of **** friends and with every ounce of will ,energy and misdirected anger from every point of my life i drove my fist into that ****'s putrid face and punched him to the sand.
I was standing over Loud Mouth's form bellowing that he was an imposter king presiding over a weak, gay wave, raising my fist for another blow when i realised my hand was broken . Then i heard a lady screaming and i was back in my head, concious of what i'd done , aware of where i was.
Loud Mouth was not cowering , but all fight had left the man. He was submissive but i was not gracious. Thank **** i did not have a gun cause if i did i would have shot the ****. The only thing that stopped me from kicking him till he twitched was some chick throwing herself over his prostate form.
I looked up to see four hundred sets of eyes willing me in gaol. I walked towards the path that led to the carpark, unrepentent, as i approached my car a smiling mother said to her young son "look at that mans face honey! " , i stared at her and tried to fathom what type of person would be so insensitive to anothers situation.Then i told her to "shut the **** up , mole," and walked to my car.
Looking in my cars rear view mirror i saw that Loud Mouth's initial punch had broken my nose. I straightened it suprisingly easily and drove one handed to the hospital where the nurses shook their heads with sceptisism and unabashed disgust as i lied to their faces and told them i had broken my hand and nose in a wipeout.
I can't say i moved on and put this bull**** behind me so easily. The fact that i'm still talking about it now reveals the truth.
In fact i went into a fair spiral of hatred towards my fellow man and society in general following this little episode. I pretty much bailed on humanity till the holidays ended. Then i would cruise the short streets of 1972 with my fish killing baton at hand only half deluding myself that i was'nt looking for Loud Mouth, the man that pretty much single handedly robbed me of my love of the human race.
Of course i got over it. But it took me a whole lap of this awesome land to come to grips with the act of a single ****wit. And that was a few years ago.
The lesson i've learnt ? Don't humour some clown that wants to bring you down to their bitter level or, as a wise fella has told me since- Never get into a mud slinging match with a pig cause you both end up covered in ****- only the pig likes it."


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WA
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WA, 86 posts
30 Jan 2012 4:20pm
Although i understand what he is saying about not lowering yourself to some arseh#les level i strongly believe this is why people have less and less respect for anything or anyone these days. Im 30yrs old and i remember when i was a kid i would never smart mouth/abuse someone older then me simply because of fear of getting a clip under the ear. I now see little mall rat f@ckers everywhere telling people to go f@ck themselves while flipping them off. Now i'm not saying we should go around and self regulate by bashing the little pricks (thats the parents job) but this is why i believe you have to stop the bullship somewhere. The guy in the story was obviously a complete c@ck and the dude that posted the story feels bad about dropping him???? WTF? In my veiw he did the right thing, like i said, the bullship has to stop somewhere, this c@ck has probably been going off at people and treating them like ship since his own mall rat days. I'm not saying that the c@ck wont carry on like he did ever again, but hopefully he thinks about it twice before opening his mouth next time, if not, hopefully someone else drops him and keeps dropping him until he learns. If grommets don't have surf etiquette or don't get a little bit of fear put up them when they snake/drop-in when in the line up how can we expect them to have it when they are older?

Weldone old mate, hopefully "loud mouth" thinks twice next time!

P.s i do not believe in giving someone a hiding for an innocent/accidental drop-in but if it is every second wave something needs to be said or done or it will go on for ever.
PaddlePig
PaddlePig
WA
421 posts
WA, 421 posts
30 Jan 2012 6:31pm
I love a (seeing) a good blue, absolutely love it! Given the lack of proper witnesses, I'd (watch someone) have gone much harder. Love it, absolutely love it! (They should) Just rip 'em.

I love how more dominant surfers are sometimes small and underweight. Might help your surfing but won't help ya on the beach!! Haha!

(I toned-down my reply given the nature of my occupation)
jbshack
jbshack
WA
6913 posts
WA, 6913 posts
31 Jan 2012 11:33am
It was a good read and i'm kinda glad Big Mouth coped it as well but most times its just not worth it. Simply one punch in the wrong spot and you could be gone..

There's been alot of talk lately about agro in the surf. Having just started to get back into it i can see it it only a little. I more worry about getting hurt by uncaring folk who just chuck there boards with no regard to who is where.

I will say as a kid i often surfed the Spot but have not heard good things of late. Not sure if its all just talk to keep average folk out but once fitness is completely returned i will venture out there as well.

I do believe you get what you put out and if your friendly and respectful you'll mostly always do okay. Worked for me this far. Actually i possibly talk too much in the water and they often let me get waves to have a break from me
doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
WA, 15849 posts
31 Jan 2012 12:02pm
jbshack said...

It was a good read and i'm kinda glad Big Mouth coped it as well but most times its just not worth it. Simply one punch in the wrong spot and you could be gone..

There's been alot of talk lately about agro in the surf. Having just started to get back into it i can see it it only a little. I more worry about getting hurt by uncaring folk who just chuck there boards with no regard to who is where.

I will say as a kid i often surfed the Spot but have not heard good things of late. Not sure if its all just talk to keep average folk out but once fitness is completely returned i will venture out there as well.

I do believe you get what you put out and if your friendly and respectful you'll mostly always do okay. Worked for me this far. Actually i possibly talk too much in the water and they often let me get waves to have a break from me


The spot just gets crowded and can be inconsistant even on a good day, I generally dont surf it. new years day was good tho
blueball
blueball
WA
87 posts
WA, 87 posts
31 Jan 2012 2:01pm
The spot has been my preferred/local spot for the past 12-15 years and I reckon it has mellowed out over time since becoming a super well known break. I have been mates with the regulars there for pretty much all my time surfing it and that certainly helped me get waves way back when I was grom getting picked up on marmion ave by the boys on their way up. For mine the lineup was regulars out the back sharing the sets and blowins spread thru the lineup, and blowins rarely got the plum rides and there was always some heat in the water! Nowadays since the track got widened and limestoned and signwritten the place is a free for all for every man and his dog. The old dogs still rule but not like they used to, it's just too crowded these days. Bit like the point, that place has lost its gnarly reputation cos every gumby just goes out there.

People just need to respect the people that are already out imo, and not paddle straight into pole position. Sit off, wait for a set or two to come through and when the lineup has cleared a little then move up the rank, helps keep the peace!!
mazdon
mazdon
1199 posts
1199 posts
31 Jan 2012 3:15pm
i didn't think you paddled out anymore unless it's 6' hawaiian bballs
blueball
blueball
WA
87 posts
WA, 87 posts
31 Jan 2012 4:05pm
Gotta have some compromises living where we do The Don!

Sunday is looking good for a field trip though.. but the big decision is North or South!!???
synsies1000
synsies1000
WA
270 posts
WA, 270 posts
31 Jan 2012 4:08pm


Bit of agro out here i reckon, but a happy ending at the finish!
GPA
GPA
WA
2529 posts
GPA GPA
WA, 2529 posts
31 Jan 2012 4:50pm
^^^
Unbelievable - and I thought I'd seen crowded surf. Lost count of the drop-ins very early on in that vid. And how's the dodgems on the inside?!

Even tho' it was 'fun' looking surf I wonder how many copped 6ft of fibreglass in the head?
blueball
blueball
WA
87 posts
WA, 87 posts
31 Jan 2012 4:57pm
They all looked pretty tolerant of each other though!
jbshack
jbshack
WA
6913 posts
WA, 6913 posts
31 Jan 2012 5:32pm
Frk that. I always let the first out go and then move in to the swing. BUT i will say that i don't even paddle with others and after a while if they don't share i get a little peeved. I think many of these guys need to learn to look sideways..

Great looking waves though, heaps of fun.
PaddlePig
PaddlePig
WA
421 posts
WA, 421 posts
31 Jan 2012 5:49pm
There is NO WAY I'd ever paddle out there. I'd quit surfing before I did! The wave wasn't that great either!
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WA
86 posts
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WA, 86 posts
31 Jan 2012 9:31pm
Fark I just got pissed off just watching that, imagine being out there[}:)]
soleman
soleman
WA
280 posts
WA, 280 posts
1 Feb 2012 3:37pm
^^^^ Almost seems completely pointless, surely there are other options around there somewhere. Surfing in crowds like that must be way too intense. Ahh well better over there than where i surf!!
wodgina6722
wodgina6722
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229 posts
1 Feb 2012 5:01pm
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