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surferstu
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24 Apr 2012 8:17am
http://www.surfersjournal.com/journal_entry/fear-and-loathing-lineup
doggie
doggie
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24 Apr 2012 11:51am
Good read
SP
SP
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24 Apr 2012 11:59am
Haha you beat me to re-posting it Doggie
doggie
doggie
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24 Apr 2012 12:14pm
SP said...

Haha you beat me to re-posting it Doggie


Couldnt resist
surferstu
surferstu
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1011 posts
24 Apr 2012 1:43pm
It really belongs over in that room anyway. Been far too long since there's been a multiple page troll thread in the PUS room
doggie
doggie
WA
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24 Apr 2012 1:46pm
surferstu said...

It really belongs over in that room anyway. Been far too long since there's been a multiple page troll thread in the PUS room


Im working hard on it Stu, btw the DVS is looking great managed to save the tint. Should look great mate
surferstu
surferstu
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1011 posts
24 Apr 2012 1:50pm
doggie said...

surferstu said...

It really belongs over in that room anyway. Been far too long since there's been a multiple page troll thread in the PUS room


Im working hard on it Stu, btw the DVS is looking great managed to save the tint. Should look great mate


Awesome, can't wait to get on it again
surferstu
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1011 posts
26 Apr 2012 12:14pm
24 April 2012 11:06 AM
Sunday 22nd April, Point Cartwright Sunshine Coast. Surf 4-6 foot with a relaxed and easy going small crowd. Amongst us were two SUP riders, both very competent riders. Until one decides to get cocky and sit in the main cluster close to a sucky rock shelf. The first waves of the set come through and clean up those sitting on the inside edge of the take off zone. The SUP rider clumsily turns his craft into a late take off and proceeds to nose dive the board into the path of other surfers duck diving and trying to avoid the take off zone.
The SUP and rider lands on top of another surfer who was warning him very vocally that he was in the way. Something either a fin or a paddle slices a 15cm gash in the calf of the poor bastard who got in the way, this gash split the calf right down to the tendons. An Ambulance was called and the victim was carted off for surgery and a long lay off from the water.
I have seen too many encounters this one by far the worst involving SUPs in critical zones.
How long will it be before a permanent disability or death becomes a headline due to the stupidity of irresponsible SUP riders?






SUP riding in crowded surf is just another chapter in the evolution of greed in surfing and in the line-up. Before SUPs it was PWCs and tow-ins and before that it was wave skis and in many cases mals.

Its good that people surf and on different boards but the reality is some do not mix without lots of common sense and respect and folks that is where it falls apart.

Locally, SUP riders have pretty much taken over two breaks and regularly surf 4 or 6 others. Everyone I have spoken to about their presence on the coast hates it but they seem powerless to anything about it.

For what its worth I believe SUPs and wave skis should not be permitted to surf amongst surfers on small boards just like PWCs are banned but that will not happen unless there are deaths or riots or both.



##it's not an article, it's off a forum like this one. Here are the juiciest bits

beastsurf
beastsurf
WA
902 posts
WA, 902 posts
26 Apr 2012 4:33pm
In relation to the story published, is there any differance between the SUP and a Kook of the same calliber. Are we labeling all SUP just because of one Kook. There have been plenty of times when a Kook gets themselves in the wrong spot with a similar outcome. Maybe the scurge of SUP will die a slow death on its own course as did the goat boater. I must admit it is a shame the next generation will have to put up with another pain in the arse surfcraft moving in.
jbshack
jbshack
WA
6913 posts
WA, 6913 posts
26 Apr 2012 5:01pm
beastsurf said...

In relation to the story published, is there any differance between the SUP and a Kook of the same calliber. Are we labeling all SUP just because of one Kook. There have been plenty of times when a Kook gets themselves in the wrong spot with a similar outcome. Maybe the scurge of SUP will die a slow death on its own course as did the goat boater. I must admit it is a shame the next generation will have to put up with another pain in the arse surfcraft moving in.


I totally agree, but to be fair maybe a few Sup's are going out under gunned and giving them a bad name. I agree there are kooks in all line ups.. I can't stand surfers who on a busy day just chuck there board hitting you. Problem is with a sup is they are big and heavy so the potential damage is huge.

Did anybody see Bondi Rescue this week with the long boarder ran over some guy temporarily paralyzing him..?

I honestly have not really had any issue yet with Sup's or even long boards, I just hate boogie kids and would like to see a culling program on them
raynef2005
raynef2005
QLD
161 posts
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26 Apr 2012 7:06pm
surferstu said...

24 April 2012 11:06 AM
Sunday 22nd April, Point Cartwright Sunshine Coast. Surf 4-6 foot with a relaxed and easy going small crowd. Amongst us were two SUP riders, both very competent riders. Until one decides to get cocky and sit in the main cluster close to a sucky rock shelf. The first waves of the set come through and clean up those sitting on the inside edge of the take off zone. The SUP rider clumsily turns his craft into a late take off and proceeds to nose dive the board into the path of other surfers duck diving and trying to avoid the take off zone.
The SUP and rider lands on top of another surfer who was warning him very vocally that he was in the way. Something either a fin or a paddle slices a 15cm gash in the calf of the poor bastard who got in the way, this gash split the calf right down to the tendons. An Ambulance was called and the victim was carted off for surgery and a long lay off from the water.
I have seen too many encounters this one by far the worst involving SUPs in critical zones.
How long will it be before a permanent disability or death becomes a headline due to the stupidity of irresponsible SUP riders?






SUP riding in crowded surf is just another chapter in the evolution of greed in surfing and in the line-up. Before SUPs it was PWCs and tow-ins and before that it was wave skis and in many cases mals.

Its good that people surf and on different boards but the reality is some do not mix without lots of common sense and respect and folks that is where it falls apart.

Locally, SUP riders have pretty much taken over two breaks and regularly surf 4 or 6 others. Everyone I have spoken to about their presence on the coast hates it but they seem powerless to anything about it.

For what its worth I believe SUPs and wave skis should not be permitted to surf amongst surfers on small boards just like PWCs are banned but that will not happen unless there are deaths or riots or both.



##it's not an article, it's off a forum like this one. Here are the juiciest bits





I hate to say it and I don't condone violence, but the burleigh boardrider SUP control team seem to be doing a good job. You hardly ever see a SUP out at burleigh, and when you do it's probably one of the locals and they stay well wide. When the SUP craze first took off there were heaps of SUPs getting in the way at burleigh, and paddling further out and getting more waves. Things changed soon though, after the locals got sick of watching these selfish bastards getting set wave after set wave from far outside.
raynef2005
raynef2005
QLD
161 posts
QLD, 161 posts
26 Apr 2012 7:07pm
You sit deep on a SUP at burleigh now you get bashed.
surferstu
surferstu
1011 posts
1011 posts
27 Apr 2012 8:20am
surferstu said...

24 April 2012 11:06 AM
Sunday 22nd April, Point Cartwright Sunshine Coast. Surf 4-6 foot with a relaxed and easy going small crowd. Amongst us were two SUP riders, both very competent riders. Until one decides to get cocky and sit in the main cluster close to a sucky rock shelf. The first waves of the set come through and clean up those sitting on the inside edge of the take off zone. The SUP rider clumsily turns his craft into a late take off and proceeds to nose dive the board into the path of other surfers duck diving and trying to avoid the take off zone.
The SUP and rider lands on top of another surfer who was warning him very vocally that he was in the way. Something either a fin or a paddle slices a 15cm gash in the calf of the poor bastard who got in the way, this gash split the calf right down to the tendons. An Ambulance was called and the victim was carted off for surgery and a long lay off from the water.
I have seen too many encounters this one by far the worst involving SUPs in critical zones.
How long will it be before a permanent disability or death becomes a headline due to the stupidity of irresponsible SUP riders?






SUP riding in crowded surf is just another chapter in the evolution of greed in surfing and in the line-up. Before SUPs it was PWCs and tow-ins and before that it was wave skis and in many cases mals.

Its good that people surf and on different boards but the reality is some do not mix without lots of common sense and respect and folks that is where it falls apart.

Locally, SUP riders have pretty much taken over two breaks and regularly surf 4 or 6 others. Everyone I have spoken to about their presence on the coast hates it but they seem powerless to anything about it.

For what its worth I believe SUPs and wave skis should not be permitted to surf amongst surfers on small boards just like PWCs are banned but that will not happen unless there are deaths or riots or both.



##it's not an article, it's off a forum like this one. Here are the juiciest bits




Well there's more than one side to the story,

27 April 2012 09:07 AM
G'Day all,
Well unfortunately I was the unlucky one in the way last Sunday. I'd been surfing for about 3 1/2 hours and honestly it was about as good as the Carties breaks get. Wasn't spending much time on the section that is Carties. I was getting most of my waves from Platties and halfways. Managed to shimmy across one right through into Carties and rode all the way through.

As I pulled off a couple of young kids on lids (I think, it's a bit of a blur) were paddling out near me. We came over the next wave and the SUP was slowly turning to catch a wider wave. He really had eyes only for the wave and was watching over his shoulder as the wave came up behind him. I couldn't get inside him cos of the guys inside me so had to go wide or get mown down. The wave jacked a bit more than he thought so to compensate he changed his entry angle to wider angle. Basically straight at me. In all this time he never once looked toward his path he would take. At the last second he realised he was going to run me over and just jumped off his board. I duckdived as deep as I could but must have left my left leg up as you do, and got smashed by, I guess, his fin. I felt instantly sick in my guts and my leg was agony. I surfaced and gave him a verbal spray. Lifted my leg out of the water so he could see it. "Look what you've ****in done to my leg" His reply was,

"Well you shouldn't have been in my way" !!!!!!!

He then grabbed his board and paddled away leaving me to make my own way in to the rocks. Blood was pulsing out of a 10cm gash in my lower calf. A couple of people helped me out over the next hour to get me to hospital. (Big thanks to all involved, you know who you are if you read this) Ordeal was not over yet...

Doctors advised me that the cut was so deep that I would require surgery. The bone and surrounds would need to be cleaned properly or infection was a good possibility. I was put on the surgery list. Unfortunately/fortunately I was a fairly low priority and spent the next 3 days getting bumped by more urgent cases. No food or water until 8 pm each night until it was certain I wouldn't be operated on that day. Finally Tuesday arvo operation was performed and here I am stitches, crutches and no surfing for I'm not sure how long.

To reply to some of the speculation on this thread...
I've been surfing 30 years.I don't rip but I go ok. I've made some good decisions in the water and some bad ones... like most of us I reckon. I have gotten in peoples way over the years and people have gotten in my way, it just happens sometimes.
The previous morning I surfed the open beach at Buddina. It was bigger Saturday and to be honest was probably outside my comfort level, but I took it on. I only mention this to refute claims I should have duckdived the wave rather than paddle for the shoulder into SUP's path. It just played out that way. I have no problem duckdiving 4 foot waves. I just had little choice and judged that Sups entry angle he should clear me, until he changed angle.
When Carties gets bigger and the swell is straight out of the east there can be waves that break tight to the rocks (the better ones) or there can be bigger wider fatter ones. So Carties does not break down the same path every time. When you pull off a wave you are where you are.
MrsBradPitt it was a strange swell as Carties/Platties was very good (strange) and the crowd was way down on normal numbers.

A few thoughts...

If there's someone in your way, and there is doubt you can get around them, pull back, it's just a wave. If someone sits inside and doesnt move when your trying to take off, give them a spray but pull back. It's just a wave. At least once anyway.
If someone is coming straight for me from now on I'll be protecting my body before my board. It's just a board.
If you injure someone in the surf, even if you believe you were not at fault, help them to the beach. Paddling away is a dog act. Face what you have done even if you are copping a spray. I gave this guy a mouthful, but if he helped me and showed a bit of remorse it would have been such an improvement on what actually went down.

I'll get better and be surfing again soon and was very very lucky. Another 2 inches down and my ankle would probably been crushed. It was a big impact. I hope the SUP got a good look at the damage inflicted and he had a rethink of his actions later on.

Wanna see some photos???

Poida






boofy
boofy
NSW
2110 posts
NSW, 2110 posts
27 Apr 2012 10:30am
Yes I wanna see photos
It was gutless and unaustralian of him paddling away and not helping you mate hope you recover quickly
jbshack
jbshack
WA
6913 posts
WA, 6913 posts
27 Apr 2012 3:03pm
Hope your leg is okay Poida. No reason really for any craft to go uncontrolled in surf IMHO[}:)].

The other day i had to duck dive completely under a lidder and felt the woosh on my back and thank god it had no fins

I really don't like kooks on any craft and do my best to avoid being one myself
elcoco
elcoco
WA
114 posts
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28 Apr 2012 4:51pm
What a "w****r" Poida, hope he has the same treatment one day![}:)] how can you do that? Get well soon
beastsurf
beastsurf
WA
902 posts
WA, 902 posts
29 Apr 2012 11:01pm
Hope you have a speedy recovery Poida. I have a similar drama where the person who was involved left me for dead. The incident was not totaly his fault. I can understand the man in the street not wanting to help a fellow citizen. you never know what you are getting yourself into sometimes but a fellow surfer. I think we can all take the time to make sure the water is as safe as possible for all the users. Any way hope you have a speedy recovery. Maybe hook into some cheap DVDs to keep the mind surfing.
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