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Glasslove
Glasslove
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23 Jul 2012 1:59pm
Not sure if I am pointing out the obvious or not, but can someone explain why other large predatory type creatures, such as a tiger shark are not protected and no one seems to bat an eyelid if one is caught and strung up as a trophy. Take the guy that was in the newspaper who caught one off a jetty in cockburn recently.

If this is the case why do certain people get so worked up about protecting white sharks? Surely a tiger shark is an Apex pretator as well?
soleman
soleman
WA
280 posts
WA, 280 posts
23 Jul 2012 2:09pm
yeah good point, wouldn't mind an answer to that myself
doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
WA, 15849 posts
23 Jul 2012 2:15pm
I think tiger sharks breed faster than whites, dont quote me on that.
Scotty88
Scotty88
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4214 posts
23 Jul 2012 4:22pm
doggie said...

I think tiger sharks breed faster than whites, dont quote me on that.


Why not ? You said it.
doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
WA, 15849 posts
23 Jul 2012 4:37pm
Scotty88 said...

doggie said...

I think tiger sharks breed faster than whites, dont quote me on that.


Why not ? You said it.


I did say I think, and I couldnt be bothered with google or wiki today I was just too busy

You couldnt help youself could you

Dam those pesky SUPers
Woodo
Woodo
WA
792 posts
WA, 792 posts
23 Jul 2012 5:00pm
doggie said...

I think tiger sharks breed faster than whites, dont quote me on that.


In writting. Gotta be true...
doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
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23 Jul 2012 5:01pm
Woodo said...

doggie said...

I think tiger sharks breed faster than whites, dont quote me on that.


In writting. Gotta be true...


Jeez you guys
smicko
smicko
WA
2503 posts
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23 Jul 2012 5:32pm
Busy?

You???

jbshack
jbshack
WA
6913 posts
WA, 6913 posts
23 Jul 2012 5:56pm
Glasslove said...

Not sure if I am pointing out the obvious or not, but can someone explain why other large predatory type creatures, such as a tiger shark are not protected and no one seems to bat an eyelid if one is caught and strung up as a trophy. Take the guy that was in the newspaper who caught one off a jetty in cockburn recently.

If this is the case why do certain people get so worked up about protecting white sharks? Surely a tiger shark is an Apex pretator as well?


GW are on the endangered list because there is not so many left to sustain breading and the continuation of the species.. Simple as that.

As Doggie said they breed faster, and more effectively. But from my point of view if this is meant for me considering your other thread tittle i would get upset if tigers were targeted for a cull as whites are. In fact I'm against all shark fining, i also support protest against Dolphin killing, Aquariums like sea world and Whaling world wide. I don't like seal hunts and have donated money to help try stop that also but i will say on a personal level i don't like seals, they frighten the crap out of me after one bit a mate once But i still wouldn't support a cull on them.


I also don't want to see the last tree cut down either

BUT THATS JUST MY OPINION..

Glasslove
Glasslove
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15 posts
23 Jul 2012 5:58pm
Wot other thread title?.....
jbshack
jbshack
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23 Jul 2012 6:00pm
Glasslove said...

Wot other thread title?.....


The one you just deleted
Scotty88
Scotty88
4214 posts
4214 posts
23 Jul 2012 6:27pm
doggie said...

Scotty88 said...

doggie said...

I think tiger sharks breed faster than whites, dont quote me on that.


Why not ? You said it.


I did say I think, and I couldnt be bothered with google or wiki today I was just too busy

You couldnt help youself could you

Dam those pesky SUPers


No probs LBer.
Woodo
Woodo
WA
792 posts
WA, 792 posts
23 Jul 2012 6:33pm
jbshack said...
GW are on the endangered list because there is not so many left to sustain breading and the continuation of the species.. Simple as that.


I bet you can't back up that statement with any ACTUAL proof either. Simple as that.
Glasslove
Glasslove
15 posts
15 posts
23 Jul 2012 10:47pm
jbshack said...

Glasslove said...

Wot other thread title?.....


The one you just deleted


I didn't delete anything
not sure where it went.
thought a jbshack forum would be cool.
No offence intended.
doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
WA, 15849 posts
24 Jul 2012 8:51am
Scotty88 said...

doggie said...

Scotty88 said...

doggie said...

I think tiger sharks breed faster than whites, dont quote me on that.


Why not ? You said it.


I did say I think, and I couldnt be bothered with google or wiki today I was just too busy

You couldnt help youself could you

Dam those pesky SUPers


No probs LBer.


Poida
Poida
WA
1922 posts
WA, 1922 posts
24 Jul 2012 10:29am
all i can see the govt doing in the next 5-10 years is research and tagging
maybe kill one and string it up for the media and the masses as the culprit
they will need proof of the population numbers first before they say , yes theres fkn a lot of gws's nearby the WA coastline
lets hope the gws's get their fill of seals and whales, not people
jbshack
jbshack
WA
6913 posts
WA, 6913 posts
24 Jul 2012 10:38am
Woodo said...

jbshack said...
GW are on the endangered list because there is not so many left to sustain breading and the continuation of the species.. Simple as that.


I bet you can't back up that statement with any ACTUAL proof either. Simple as that.


Yeah i just made it up. Plucked it from my arse

It seems to me that when a entire field of marine biologist come up with something. (IE GW shark numbers are at collapse levels) if it doesn't suit our personal situation we all just say its crap. They must be wrong. Will you not even consider that just because attack numbers have increased COULD have nothing to do with proving shark numbers have increased. Most experts have put forward there opinion on why, and yes it cant be proved, 100%, but for the same reason it can not be proved than numbers have also exploded

If we kill of the GW and you were wrong what then

For me its the same as saying we need trees. We need them to survive on this planet but hey lets cut them all down and see what happens then
Woodo
Woodo
WA
792 posts
WA, 792 posts
24 Jul 2012 10:57am
jbshack said...

Yeah i just made it up. Plucked it from my arse



Just as I suspected...
SP
SP
10982 posts
SP SP
10982 posts
24 Jul 2012 11:52am
jbshack said...

Woodo said...

jbshack said...
GW are on the endangered list because there is not so many left to sustain breading and the continuation of the species.. Simple as that.


I bet you can't back up that statement with any ACTUAL proof either. Simple as that.


Yeah i just made it up. Plucked it from my arse

It seems to me that when a entire field of marine biologist come up with something. (IE GW shark numbers are at collapse levels) if it doesn't suit our personal situation we all just say its crap. They must be wrong. Will you not even consider that just because attack numbers have increased COULD have nothing to do with proving shark numbers have increased. Most experts have put forward there opinion on why, and yes it cant be proved, 100%, but for the same reason it can not be proved than numbers have also exploded

If we kill of the GW and you were wrong what then

For me its the same as saying we need trees. We need them to survive on this planet but hey lets cut them all down and see what happens then



FFS... you've been wrong that many times in this thread and topic you'd think you'd give up or put some facts up... where is the proof there at collapse??

facts are thing you can prove other than that its an opinion and they're like areseholes, everone has one and they are usually tainted with ****.

no offence JB, not aimed at you entirely but this thread is becoming ridiculous and so is half the stuff thats been written about sharks in here.
Its a shame cause it is a serious ****ing issue and misinformation and half truths dont help. It needs to be an intelligent and well put together argument, essentially you're asking our government to kill a protected species. Its a pretty big ask, so the only way it can be done is with proof that it is the best course of action and an intelligent dialogue to outline the points and arguments, do you think the minister bloke Bakesy mentioned would come on here, no way he's on a hiding to nothing a bunch of annonomus people behind a Keyboard armed with half fact and suspicion.

see below for example of a nameless knob shooting his mouth off at someone or something he knows f all about...




doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
WA, 15849 posts
24 Jul 2012 12:14pm


SP
SP
10982 posts
SP SP
10982 posts
24 Jul 2012 12:19pm
hahahahah, helicat...


Actually the nameless person deleted his post...

it was a shot at JB about having a boat dealer in his profile, yet protecting fish... it was ****ing lame..

Shame RbL



SP
SP
10982 posts
SP SP
10982 posts
24 Jul 2012 12:22pm
Cache'd history.. learn the term...

rbl said...

JB shack, you seem to be really righteous re conservation of fish, whites etc and yet u used to have boat dealer on your profile page. Now tell me that the boats you sell aren't being used to harness terror against all things marine. are you a hypocrite???????


jbshack
jbshack
WA
6913 posts
WA, 6913 posts
24 Jul 2012 12:22pm
rbl said...

JB shack, you seem to be really righteous re conservation of fish, whites etc and yet u used to have boat dealer on your profile page. Now tell me that the boats you sell aren't being used to harness terror against all things marine. are you a hypocrite???????


Actually i am a boat dealer. I never said i believe in banning fishing. I personally though do agree with Marine reserves (not the current model put up by our government as they are more about protecting offshore mining rights then fish. Buts that another argument).
I also disagree with wide spread harvesting of our seas by irresponsible commercial fishing operations as well. Also another argument.

So i make a living out of selling boats. Wouldn't i be the one who is to lose the most if fishing was to completely collapse. But i don't argue for preservation for sharks and the ocean for myself. I do it for my children.

As for this being a ridiculous argument i agree. WORLD EXPERTS, BE IT MARINE BIOLISGTS, UNIVERSTRY STUDIES, WHAT EVER YOU WHO EVER YOU WANT TO ASK HAVE PUT GW SHARKS ON THE PROTECTED SPECIES LIST. WHY

But the key board terrorists who want to able to surf safer on the weekends say lets kill them because we know better I can see the stupid side of this argument too.

And as for being wrong i miss read one article. (actually didn't read it first time) shame too as it once read again also proves my point that sharks need to be protected still.

As for anonymity my business is Called Joondalup Boat Shack (JBShack) and my name Rodney Pallister is on my profile page. I'm not hiding behind anything. But i agree people are alot braver when they think no one knows who ther are
SP
SP
10982 posts
SP SP
10982 posts
24 Jul 2012 12:50pm
doggie said...






look at the ad....




now seabreeze is advertising hobby shops, wonder if thats from all the helicat chat... at least you know where to get the bits to make it, well besides the cat
doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
WA, 15849 posts
24 Jul 2012 1:30pm
SP said...

doggie said...






look at the ad....




now seabreeze is advertising hobby shops, wonder if thats from all the helicat chat... at least you know where to get the bits to make it, well besides the cat


There have been a few model Heli and Plane threads in the general section before, I love those twin rotor mini helis that are around at the moment. Hours of entertainment
The GF saw that and went straight into a helicat rant thinking I was going to use that as parts for a helicat
Woodo
Woodo
WA
792 posts
WA, 792 posts
24 Jul 2012 1:49pm
jbshack said...
Actually i am a boat dealer.
As for anonymity my business is Called Joondalup Boat Shack (JBShack)


What have you got around the 19ft range? I'm after another boat soon.

jbshack
jbshack
WA
6913 posts
WA, 6913 posts
24 Jul 2012 2:51pm
Woodo said...

jbshack said...
Actually i am a boat dealer.
As for anonymity my business is Called Joondalup Boat Shack (JBShack)


What have you got around the 19ft range? I'm after another boat soon.




www.boatshack.com.au

doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
WA, 15849 posts
24 Jul 2012 2:56pm
jbshack said...

Woodo said...

jbshack said...
Actually i am a boat dealer.
As for anonymity my business is Called Joondalup Boat Shack (JBShack)


What have you got around the 19ft range? I'm after another boat soon.




www.boatshack.com.au




Any jobs going Rodney
Gwendy
Gwendy
SA
472 posts
SA, 472 posts
24 Jul 2012 4:38pm
jbshack said...

Woodo said...

jbshack said...
GW are on the endangered list because there is not so many left to sustain breading and the continuation of the species.. Simple as that.


I bet you can't back up that statement with any ACTUAL proof either. Simple as that.


Yeah i just made it up. Plucked it from my arse

It seems to me that when a entire field of marine biologist come up with something. (IE GW shark numbers are at collapse levels) if it doesn't suit our personal situation we all just say its crap. They must be wrong. Will you not even consider that just because attack numbers have increased COULD have nothing to do with proving shark numbers have increased. Most experts have put forward there opinion on why, and yes it cant be proved, 100%, but for the same reason it can not be proved than numbers have also exploded

If we kill of the GW and you were wrong what then

For me its the same as saying we need trees. We need them to survive on this planet but hey lets cut them all down and see what happens then


Reading between the lines of all the scientific jargon the biologists I know use, Endangered means the population is less that it otherwise would be due to human activity
jbshack
jbshack
WA
6913 posts
WA, 6913 posts
24 Jul 2012 4:25pm
doggie said...

jbshack said...

Woodo said...

jbshack said...
Actually i am a boat dealer.
As for anonymity my business is Called Joondalup Boat Shack (JBShack)


What have you got around the 19ft range? I'm after another boat soon.




www.boatshack.com.au




Any jobs going Rodney


i struggle to keep myself busy

doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
WA, 15849 posts
24 Jul 2012 4:56pm
jbshack said...

doggie said...

jbshack said...

Woodo said...

jbshack said...
Actually i am a boat dealer.
As for anonymity my business is Called Joondalup Boat Shack (JBShack)


What have you got around the 19ft range? I'm after another boat soon.




www.boatshack.com.au




Any jobs going Rodney


i struggle to keep myself busy




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