Hi all novice here - I am purchasing a haydenshapes hypto krypto after having a shot on a mates and loving it and I am hoping to get some recommendations on fins... I am at bit beginner-intermediate level and will not be surfing very big waves... surfing perth, margs, and bali (from most to least)... I have been looking at futures black stix range but open to any recommendations... this is first new board I am buying online so any other important info would be appreciated.. will the fin kit come with everything I need?? Same goes for tail pad.... Cheers

Dependent on how heavy you are Shapers AM2's. I was put onto them by Chrispy and haven't looked back.

Cheers for suggestions....I am pretty set on hypto krypto tux but cheers...

Forgot to mention I am roughly 177-178cm and ~75kg

Yes Gsi pop outs glassed like crap.
You can order a custom direct from Hayden which would be a much better option.

Ha ha dropped the FCS key and went right through it hey?

If was me on the hunt would see a local for a new one.

Hope all this is not too late Buttsy7

Yes I'm also a bearer of bad news.
I bought a hypo crypto after all the fan fair of it, guess I got sucked in.
bought a 6'4 as I'm 195cm and 100kgs and it was like trying to surf on a boat, couldn't duck it for ****.
It paddled like my old mans 9'1 but similar events to above, its pretty limited due to how thick the rails were its a long board in a short board with a skatey tail.
I ditched it after 3 months (didn't have any structural issues though), and have bought a js ghetto cat since and its ****s all over it.
There is more options out there mate so don't get sucked into the marketing hype which I did.
Plus its bloody expensive for a factory mass made board from Thailand

lortap said..
I disagree, well sort of..

There are generally two reasons why people don't like Hyptos: firstly, they buy them too big and find them corky (im 6'2, 92kg and the 5'10 floats me easily and paddles well) - there is a lot of hidden foam in them and you need to buy on volume not length; second, the construction means they dent fairly easily, but this is a trade off with weight. They are an extremely light board and relative to a poly construction of the same weight (which would probably be a 4 oz glass job top and bottom) my view is the Hypto would be more durable (certainly better break strength).

Horses for courses....

True regarding size. Gotta ride them small.

As for weight and strength, these boards are part of a business model which works as follows:

1. Build high value market perception
2. Produce at lowest cost
3. Sell at highest price

So it's no surprise that they break easy. Light weight = low cost. But the consumer perception is a light weight board, not a low cost one.

I've got a Katana board which is light weight but relatively durable. Because a local shaper puts more thought put into construction rather than just whatever is cheapest/most marketable.

I had a JS Revolution once. It had one layer of glass on the deck. The pitch was that it was higher quality construction, so only needed one layer of glass on the deck. Nice marketing for JS which leads to a lower cost of production.

lortap said..
I agree Hyptos are crazy expensive for what they are and the decks dent on the first surf. But Hayden Shapes have a good niche in building extremely light weight boards that are stronger than a poly board of equivalent weight. So if you are willing to sacrifice some durability for weight, and have the cash, they are a good option. Weight is really only critical in small waves so the competitive advantage is lost on good wave or step up boards.

Katana also make very good boards that a relatively light, cheaper than Hyptos, and WA local (I had one of Dave's epoxy, carbon rail, bamboo deck). But I am not sure the construction is as light as Hayden Shapes epoxy for what ever reason - perhaps the bamboo deck, perhaps its just the glass job?

funny timing!we just got some lighter weight bamboo so I recon it will shave at lease 10% off the total weight and with the new vac process not loose any strength

thomas11 said..
Yes I'm also a bearer of bad news.
I bought a hypo crypto after all the fan fair of it, guess I got sucked in.
bought a 6'4 as I'm 195cm and 100kgs and it was like trying to surf on a boat, couldn't duck it for ****.

I would suggest your issue re duck diving is probably more of technique than blaming the board. If you are struggling to get it under just use a bit of angle when you push it down - ie. one side slightly before the other - the rest will follow.

I find this thread quite amusing. There is a lot of hate for the hypto out there, myself included.
Have a 5'11 Matt Manners Keeper model now and it's way better. Have surfed it from knee high up to double over head. Pretty stoked with that and so good to find a really short board that works.

maybe I'm a kook, but I got given a hypto about a year ago, and have really enjoyed it in Perth surf...(I have usually gone local shaper boards). I find that the minimilist rocker gives me the speed I need to make sections on Perth beachies.... I think it would do well on long walled waves, and I wish i had it in The Maldives last year, I think it would have been perfect.
Then again if I was spending the cash for a new board, I would probably go to Katana and get the shark zapper built in.
kook out

Seen Dave tearing on his def go local