Wow amd heres me thinking I'm ready for a DW in Sydneys windy condition........perhaps not, given Justin felt the need to actually put on his PFD at some stage

Great effort

Hi Shire,

Justin didnt need the PFD it was a bum bag type and it deployed itself when he hit the water then he had a wrestle on his hands and it was easier to wear it than try to stow it lol. I have seen this happen a few times on vessels with people going over the side at speed the zips or velcro let go and then the fun begins.

I still prefer the PFD that DJ suggested and we went an bought at his mates paddle shop. It has huge arm holes, plenty of sowage for radios flares, whistles etc it you want to take them doesnt get in the way its in position all the time and it stays there and floats you face up if you get knocked out.

Phill

OG SUP said...

Hi Shire,

Justin didnt need the PFD it was a bum bag type and it deployed itself when he hit the water then he had a wrestle on his hands and it was easier to wear it than try to stow it lol. I have seen this happen a few times on vessels with people going over the side at speed the zips or velcro let go and then the fun begins.

I still prefer the PFD that DJ suggested and we went an bought at his mates paddle shop. It has huge arm holes, plenty of sowage for radios flares, whistles etc it you want to take them doesnt get in the way its in position all the time and it stays there and floats you face up if you get knocked out.

Phill

Thanks Phil, i have one of those bum bag types, maybe a fixed pfd would be wise

Shire,

They all have pros and cons, up north you would prolly get heat stroke in a standard PFD so again horses for courses I guess.

Boylos / HC

Believe it or not Nesha Kristi's younger sister won a HD gopro at the Port Phillip Cup in the lucky prize but yesterday was a little full on so it stayed in the car.

ShireSUP said...

OG SUP said...

Hi Shire,

Justin didnt need the PFD it was a bum bag type and it deployed itself when he hit the water then he had a wrestle on his hands and it was easier to wear it than try to stow it lol. I have seen this happen a few times on vessels with people going over the side at speed the zips or velcro let go and then the fun begins.

I still prefer the PFD that DJ suggested and we went an bought at his mates paddle shop. It has huge arm holes, plenty of sowage for radios flares, whistles etc it you want to take them doesnt get in the way its in position all the time and it stays there and floats you face up if you get knocked out.

Phill

Thanks Phil, i have one of those bum bag types, maybe a fixed pfd would be wise

OG SUP said...


They all have pros and cons, up north you would prolly get heat stroke in a standard PFD so again horses for courses I guess.

Funny you should say that, the word out of the west following the Doctor race is that all the competitors were quite comfortable in standard PFDs in 35 degree heat. Some were very happy to have them on as it turned out. Even Connor Baxter said he didn't notice it after a while. I think when it gets over 40 knots, you're pretty much out of your mind if you don't wear one. I don't care who you think you are, you're not swimming against that current and a leg rope isn't infallible.

laceys lane said...

PTWoody said...

OG SUP said...


They all have pros and cons, up north you would prolly get heat stroke in a standard PFD so again horses for courses I guess.

Funny you should say that, the word out of the west following the Doctor race is that all the competitors were quite comfortable in standard PFDs in 35 degree heat. Some were very happy to have them on as it turned out. Even Connor Baxter said he didn't notice it after a while. I think when it gets over 40 knots, you're pretty much out of your mind if you don't wear one. I don't care who you think you are, you're not swimming against that current and a leg rope isn't infallible.

if you look at that vid, most of the paddlers had them on very 'loosely' - not correctly fitted. to me that says it all
away from the 'public' i know a few that were not keen on them at all. the training test runs had the boys sweating like pigs at 6 am

i reckon the bum bag,gas inflatable are the best all round system- paddlers comfort and a reasonable amount of safety. all thou nothing would be perfect

Confused...........

Hey Mark,

In our instance recreational not racing the focus is on safety and we are used to using the equipment in hot conditions its just part and parcel of how we go about it. Dosent make it right or wrong just our choice.

Yesterday in winds that strong 100k+ at the peak ( a single gust blew Nesha off her feet without warning) a PFD is madatory for safety, go without one and you really need to get your head checked.

Phill.

laceys lane said...

PTWoody said...

OG SUP said...


They all have pros and cons, up north you would prolly get heat stroke in a standard PFD so again horses for courses I guess.

Funny you should say that, the word out of the west following the Doctor race is that all the competitors were quite comfortable in standard PFDs in 35 degree heat. Some were very happy to have them on as it turned out. Even Connor Baxter said he didn't notice it after a while. I think when it gets over 40 knots, you're pretty much out of your mind if you don't wear one. I don't care who you think you are, you're not swimming against that current and a leg rope isn't infallible.

if you look at that vid, most of the paddlers had them on very 'loosely' - not correctly fitted. to me that says it all
away from the 'public' i know a few that were not keen on them at all. the training test runs had the boys sweating like pigs at 6 am

i reckon the bum bag,gas inflatable are the best all round system- paddlers comfort and a reasonable amount of safety. all thou nothing would be perfect

hey phil, no shot at you guys at all. actually no shot at anyone. just a statement in rely to confused.

in those winds i would be wearing something too.

heat is issue with fully blown pfd. up here you wouldn't really wear a dark rashie on a dw run except in the smack middle of winter.

the wind was certainly blowing.

dj, in his latest vid, was way back from where he normally stands on his vids

cheers

laceys lane said...


like a lot of things on the sup forum, what is said on here and what actually is the truth is two different things- politics i think is the correct term

now watch me die online

I think we also need to be very aware of who else is lurking

62mac said...

Really lets face it you VIC's have nothing on the QLD's

Except the occasional day of sunshine.

Looked like a howler, Did we ever find out how the boards went ?

Mark I didnt take it as a shot. and my comment was in reference to those conditions 45+kn and in Corio Bay.

We have many people taking up the sport that see these posts and think hell yeah that looks like all time fun. I would rather take a conservative approach I dont and never have forced that opinion on anyone.

What you take with you is your own choice based on location, number of paddlers, conditions and your own ability. My view rightly or wrongly is rely on yourself to save your own ass at all times. Here we have cold water, limited land access and many other factors that come into play that are often not taken into consideration by new paddlers reading these posts.

A professional athlete or advanced paddler will have more skill, more capabilities. better preparation and may decide quite rightly to assume more risk to get to a goal during training or a race its thier choice and they know what they are up against and they accept the consequences if it turns to sh1t.

This run is not like the Melbourne run, you are paddling across the bay and are up to 2.75km from shore not running 400 or less from the coast. You only have shore access in certain quadrants on the bay to provide support from as kms of the bay are fenced off industrial land this makes you select departure and exit points pretty carfully and we changed departure 3 times due to wind direction.

You do have access to Harbour Control, Water Police, Coast Guard and many other facilities if you need them and they are in very close proximity and with strong relationships you can have immediate response if you need it.

Again my view rightly or wrongly is rely on yourself to save your own ass at all times, take with you whatever you believe is necessary to do it.

If your paddling with others work to the level of the least experienced paddler and keep thier limitations in mind.

This is my view I dont force it on anyone and I like to stay conservative, there is always another day another paddle to be had!

Phill

laceys lane said...

hey phil, no shot at you guys at all. actually no shot at anyone. just a statement in rely to confused.

in those winds i would be wearing something too.

heat is issue with fully blown pfd. up here you wouldn't really wear a dark rashie on a dw run except in the smack middle of winter.

the wind was certainly blowing.

dj, in his latest vid, was way back from where he normally stands on his vids

cheers

Well done Kristi, mega wind! Well said Phil, totally agree.

I just got a 2nd hand 12'6"x 30.5 Fanatic and love it. Have surfed it a few times up to over head but fat conditions and it is very controlable. Done a couple of light DWs on it and it flys, picks up runners nearly as well as my 16 foot DC. I intend to sell the 16 as the 12'6" is more versatile for this area (Sydney) cause there are heaps of opportunities to surf on it. I also got a 2nd hand 12'6" DC for Robbie. Took him on his first ocean paddle the other day, he was blown away being a km off shore

goatman said...

Well done Kristi, mega wind! Well said Phil, totally agree.

I just got a 2nd hand 12'6"x 30.5 Fanatic and love it. Have surfed it a few times up to over head but fat conditions and it is very controlable. Done a couple of light DWs on it and it flys, picks up runners nearly as well as my 16 foot DC. I intend to sell the 16 as the 12'6" is more versatile for this area (Sydney) cause there are heaps of opportunities to surf on it. I also got a 2nd hand 12'6" DC for Robbie. Took him on his first ocean paddle the other day, he was blown away being a km off shore

I agree Goaty, the Fanatic 12'6 x 30.5 does it all

dtm said...

Wow looks great wish we had a straight run that that around here .... Great effort from kristi also for getting out there

With a gushing Southerly, you could probably do Palmie to Ettalong, and jump the ferry back to Palmie... worth considering anyway.