Are we allowed to sail

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fishmonkey
fishmonkey
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1 Apr 2020 12:17pm
Sectorsteve said..

fishmonkey said..
so what the hell counts as "exercise" then? are we all supposed to jog around the block?



Yep. You've lost your rights which was the goal. Pandemic or not.


civil society is a dynamic balance of rights and responsibilities.

i want to make it clear that i am not opposed to measures and restrictions required to help prevent the spread of COVID-19, as it's undoubtedly a significant problem, especially for a lot of vulnerable people.
Datawiz
Datawiz
VIC
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1 Apr 2020 1:55pm
After being sent home by the Water Police from being anchored in my yacht (alone) in Port Phillip Bay yesterday, I got this pic from a friend today.
They were the closest human beings to me (they stood from me in their boat) since I left home in the morning.




So, l guess I'm going to be an armchair sailor for a while
regards to all,
Allan
fishmonkey
fishmonkey
NSW
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NSW, 494 posts
1 Apr 2020 2:06pm
sadly it's torpedoed my ideas of getting all those pesky boat jobs done!
Sydney88
Sydney88
NSW
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1 Apr 2020 3:24pm
It looks like in NSW Fishing has been classified as be passive exercise so is now allowable

"I have received advice from the office of the Hon David Elliott MP that the ban on recreational fishing has been overturned.Legal advice has just been issued confirming that fishing has been classified as passive exercises and therefore as long as social distancing and public gathering rules are complied with it can continue.This is a win for commonsense and will no doubt make a lot of people very happy.
The overall advice for people is to remain at home unless it is necessary but if you need to fish, you are now able to do so."
Source: Sonia Horney MP Facebook Page.

So if we tow a lure does that make it ok? It would be easier if they would just classify sailing as passive exercise.
Jethrow
Jethrow
NSW
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1 Apr 2020 3:25pm
Just to really confuse the matter, apparently tennis and golf are now allowed and the Liesl Tesch MP Facebook page says that the Police Minister has advised that FISHING is a passive exercise activity and is therefore allowed. Bloody PASSIVE exercise!

www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1417301015124287&set=a.577101145810949
Sydney88
Sydney88
NSW
108 posts
NSW, 108 posts
1 Apr 2020 3:52pm
One NSW MP did just advise when I messaged them that sailing is ok with no more than 2 people on the boat. Apparently there is a media release coming today I would suggest querying sailing with your MP's on Facebook so we don't miss this window of backflips.
boty
boty
QLD
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1 Apr 2020 2:57pm
might have to have a corona race 2 handed towing a lure
Jethrow
Jethrow
NSW
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1 Apr 2020 4:26pm
Look, I have daily contact with my elderly parents (them and the wife are the only live people I've seen for 10 days) and I'm borderline in the danger group so I'm not going to do anything that remotely puts them and me in danger however I went for a walk at lunchtime and saw 9 people walking past during that walk. Rowing out to my boat and tinkering I see ZERO people from when I leave home to when I return, so it's got to be better!
Lazzz
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woko
woko
NSW
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1 Apr 2020 7:16pm
I think that common sense will and should prevail, crowded boat ramps and likewise crowded surf breaks will be the target of official intervention, but less frequented areas as Jethrow points to, you would imagine aren't going to get much attention.
Ps. Delivery crews aren't recreational boaters and they seem to be taking advantage of the conditions ......
woko
woko
NSW
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1 Apr 2020 8:44pm



Thanks Lazz, that clears things up
claverton
claverton
NSW
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1 Apr 2020 11:32pm
fishmonkey said..
sadly it's torpedoed my ideas of getting all those pesky boat jobs done!


it should be OK in NSW to go down to the boat if it's on a mooring ... it's your exercise, can't see how they can argue with that
Ramona
Ramona
NSW
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2 Apr 2020 8:22am
In NSW you are now allowed to go fishing. Just make a point of not gathering around boat ramps and use only your local ramp, no traveling. If your going out to your mooring just carry a fishing rod. Not sure about sailing though the marine rescue crowd does not want people sailing offshore. There will be no one to rescue them!
nswsailor
nswsailor
NSW
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2 Apr 2020 9:15am
Ramona said..
In NSW you are now allowed to go fishing. Just make a point of not gathering around boat ramps and use only your local ramp, no traveling. If your going out to your mooring just carry a fishing rod. Not sure about sailing though the marine rescue crowd does not want people sailing offshore. There will be no one to rescue them!


You did mean rescue the "marine rescue" Ramona?
samsturdy
samsturdy
NSW
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2 Apr 2020 9:50am
OK, so it looks like we can go shorthanded sailing but what about you old blokes over 70, have'nt you been ordered to stay at home ??.
Jethrow
Jethrow
NSW
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2 Apr 2020 10:24am
Just be careful about using the "going fishing" excuse, they might ping you for not having a fishing license!
LooseChange
LooseChange
NSW
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2 Apr 2020 10:57am
Jethrow said..
Just be careful about using the "going fishing" excuse, they might ping you for not having a fishing license!


I suspect that most blokes here are of an age where they no longer have to have a licence to go fishing.
Ramona
Ramona
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2 Apr 2020 11:00am
nswsailor said..

Ramona said..
In NSW you are now allowed to go fishing. Just make a point of not gathering around boat ramps and use only your local ramp, no traveling. If your going out to your mooring just carry a fishing rod. Not sure about sailing though the marine rescue crowd does not want people sailing offshore. There will be no one to rescue them!



You did mean rescue the "marine rescue" Ramona?


No, that would be unkind! The problem is most of the members are very old and doddery and at great danger of the virus.
troubadour
troubadour
NSW
335 posts
NSW, 335 posts
2 Apr 2020 5:28pm
NSW Maritime will be releasing statement very soon
TKNick
TKNick
NSW
123 posts
NSW, 123 posts
2 Apr 2020 5:33pm
NSW Police Minister has ordered recreational boating to be removed from the banned activity list. Social distancing rules still apply so as long as we all do the right thing it will remain off the banned list
troubadour
troubadour
NSW
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2 Apr 2020 5:40pm
Its on the Maritime Facebook page
troubadour
troubadour
NSW
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NSW, 335 posts
2 Apr 2020 5:41pm
TKNick said..
NSW Police Minister has ordered recreational boating to be removed from the banned activity list. Social distancing rules still apply so as long as we all do the right thing it will remain off the banned list


Good point - As long as we all do the right thing and a few idiots don't spoil it for all
shaggybaxter
shaggybaxter
QLD
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2 Apr 2020 4:54pm
Qld confirmed the same thing...wahoo!
cisco
cisco
QLD
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3 Apr 2020 1:05am
Ramona said..
No, that would be unkind! The problem is most of the members are very old and doddery and at great danger of the virus.


Which members, those of the sailing fraternity or the marine rescue fraternity?
Trek
Trek
NSW
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3 Apr 2020 5:18am
troubadour said..

TKNick said..
NSW Police Minister has ordered recreational boating to be removed from the banned activity list. Social distancing rules still apply so as long as we all do the right thing it will remain off the banned list



Good point - As long as we all do the right thing and a few idiots don't spoil it for all


Troubador please post link. I want to go out on boat and would like to have it on hand in case I get pulled up, thanks
troubadour
troubadour
NSW
335 posts
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3 Apr 2020 5:30am
Trek said..

troubadour said..


TKNick said..
NSW Police Minister has ordered recreational boating to be removed from the banned activity list. Social distancing rules still apply so as long as we all do the right thing it will remain off the banned list




Good point - As long as we all do the right thing and a few idiots don't spoil it for all



Troubador please post link. I want to go out on boat and would like to have it on hand in case I get pulled up, thanks


From 31 March 2020 NSW Government Public health directions have been updated requiring people to stay at home unless they have a 'reasonable excuse'.

However, as there is on land, there are exceptions that apply on water.

If you go out social distancing rules always apply - at the boat ramp and on your boat.

You should only be on your boat alone, or with no more than one other person; or with family who ordinarily live in the same household as you.

A 'reasonable excuse' to use your boat could be to:
exercise (e.g. kayaking/sailing/paddling etc);fish;get to and from work, where the work cannot reasonably be performed from home;get groceries; andprovide assistance, care or support to an immediate member of the person's family. Unless you have an essential need to be out - stay ashore. If you do need to go out, stick to your local waters, and do not gather with more than 2 people unless with members of the same household. It is important to remember that the self-isolation rules apply at all times. Packing up your boat for a road trip and a half day fishing expedition is also not in the spirit of the restrictions. Skippers are always responsible, generally this is applied to safety equipment, keeping proper look out and proceeding at a safe speed. For the latest information on coronavirus and current restrictions, members of the community are encouraged to check the NSW Government website (nsw.gov.au) for regular updates.

There ya go Trek
nswsailor
nswsailor
NSW
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3 Apr 2020 1:11pm
Here is the latest for NSW.




fishmonkey
fishmonkey
NSW
494 posts
NSW, 494 posts
3 Apr 2020 3:09pm
you can find a PDF of the actual document on the RMYCPH website here:

www.rmycph.com.au/app/uploads/2020/04/Maritime_Update_COVID19.01.pdf

and the NSW Maritime Facebook page is here:

www.facebook.com/nswmaritime
samsturdy
samsturdy
NSW
1659 posts
NSW, 1659 posts
3 Apr 2020 3:39pm
Thanks for that NSW. I feel like I can take my boat out for a run without getting arrested. I am single handing
since the Missus has been crook so I won't contravene the distancing laws.
Cockpit
Cockpit
156 posts
156 posts
3 Apr 2020 1:26pm
Hey SB,
have you got a link to the Qld confirmation that we can also go sailing?
cheers
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