Bridles replaced twice in 6 months!

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JZOrewa
JZOrewa
52 posts
52 posts
26 Mar 2019 11:42am
The main bridles of my 11m 2014 F-One Bandit worn out and were about to break, so I replaced them by a 3mm dyneema rope.

I found out that the original pulleys were not working properly as the centre of the sheaves enlarged and doing so were scuffing the line, so I bought brand new pulleys from F-One.

Well, 6 months later it happened again. The pulleys are fine, but they keep scuffing the bridles.

Now I replaced the pulleys again, 4mm dyneema ropes and I am using those sheaveless block from Ronstan. So far so good.

It's interesting that I had other Bandits before, and that's the first time it happened to me. It's true that I'm looping the kite much more now, but I still think it shouldn't happen.

Just wondering if this problem happened to someone else...

Cheer


dafish
dafish
NSW
1654 posts
NSW, 1654 posts
26 Mar 2019 5:11pm
this was a common problem the the Slingshot Rev kites from years ago. Great kite when tuned, but as soon as those Plines went out of balance the kite was a dog. I too ditched the pulleys for rings and got more out of the kite and less wear.
michaelgb
michaelgb
QLD
24 posts
QLD, 24 posts
26 Mar 2019 5:41pm
Kites and there bridles do not last for ever, upgrade my kites every two years, next to go will be valves more than likely.
kemp90
kemp90
QLD
1694 posts
QLD, 1694 posts
27 Mar 2019 9:50am
Yep totally understand. That happened to my 2013 bandits.
Plummet
Plummet
4862 posts
4862 posts
27 Mar 2019 5:35pm
Pullies wear bridles. You are obviously using your kites a lot. Replace them every 4 months if they brake every 6 months.

Different pullies can improve life as can thicker bridles.

Also cleaning sand off also helps.replace pullies before they get too sloppy.
Adam''KiteRepair
Adam''KiteRepair
NSW
104 posts
NSW, 104 posts
27 Mar 2019 9:53pm
The bridle line Fone uses has a much higher resistance to abrasion than Dyneema. They tend to last a fair while but I do remember a model around That year that chewed a few up. Your current set up isn't bad but always a good idea to keep an eye on it. Don't forget that the previous bridle had a core, so you should notice the outer sheath is broken before it actually snaps.
cauncy
cauncy
WA
8407 posts
WA, 8407 posts
27 Mar 2019 9:00pm
michaelgb said..
Kites and there bridles do not last for ever, upgrade my kites every two years, next to go will be valves more than likely.


Riding a c4 from 2010/11, no issues with Kite/ bridal or valves, used a lot
Adam''KiteRepair
Adam''KiteRepair
NSW
104 posts
NSW, 104 posts
28 Mar 2019 7:31am
cauncy said..

michaelgb said..
Kites and there bridles do not last for ever, upgrade my kites every two years, next to go will be valves more than likely.



Riding a c4 from 2010/11, no issues with Kite/ bridal or valves, used a lot


Niether does my Peter Lynn Arc!
JZOrewa
JZOrewa
52 posts
52 posts
29 Mar 2019 11:05am
Plummet said..
Pullies wear bridles. You are obviously using your kites a lot. Replace them every 4 months if they brake every 6 months.

Different pullies can improve life as can thicker bridles.

Also cleaning sand off also helps.replace pullies before they get too sloppy.


Replacing bridles every 6 months doesn't look right to me.
Pulleys shouldn't wear ropes this way, that's why they are designed for.
Since my last bridle update I already have some wear on the rope, so went back to the pulleys. Let's see how it goes.
If it doesn't work the next step will be get some of these pulleys: www.burnsco.co.nz/shop/boating/yacht-fittings/blocks/ronstan-ser-20-bb-orbit-block-sgl-lash-rf25109
I've been using the kite an average of once a week...
Fly on da wall
Fly on da wall
SA
725 posts
SA, 725 posts
29 Mar 2019 8:22pm
Yeah, I use those orbit pulleys and they have a big enough pulley wheel to eliminate twisting of line's which results in more shrinking when your on the water..but to your bridles and micro 2.0 eliminates and chance of wearing your bridles and your bridle line's getting stuck on the side of those micro ronstan pulleys that seize up typically..
2.0 1's are perfect.
I am bound to secrecy as to where they can be sourced due to litigation...
Most good kite shops should have them for sale otherwise pm me and I'll help you source them.
NSW, 884 posts
30 Mar 2019 3:49pm
JZOrewa said..

Plummet said..
Pullies wear bridles. You are obviously using your kites a lot. Replace them every 4 months if they brake every 6 months.

Different pullies can improve life as can thicker bridles.

Also cleaning sand off also helps.replace pullies before they get too sloppy.



Replacing bridles every 6 months doesn't look right to me.
Pulleys shouldn't wear ropes this way, that's why they are designed for.
Since my last bridle update I already have some wear on the rope, so went back to the pulleys. Let's see how it goes.
If it doesn't work the next step will be get some of these pulleys: www.burnsco.co.nz/shop/boating/yacht-fittings/blocks/ronstan-ser-20-bb-orbit-block-sgl-lash-rf25109
I've been using the kite an average of once a week...


Kitepower sell those pulleys in Australia www.kitepower.com.au/products/ronstan-orbit-pulley-series-20?variant=22614937924
They are very high quality with needle roller bearings, and I'd recommend using the larger 4mm line if you can.
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