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sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
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11 Aug 2016 1:55pm
what if kite was heliums?
lukekiter
lukekiter
WA
96 posts
WA, 96 posts
11 Aug 2016 2:08pm
You must be bored........ Worst attempt at a troll ever !!!
Trant
Trant
NSW
601 posts
NSW, 601 posts
11 Aug 2016 5:23pm
sir ROWDY said..
what if kite was heliums?


Hmm, if we massively increased the size of the main bladder.
Get rid of the ribs, too heavy.
Get rid of the fabric, too heavy again.
Make the bladder a more useful ball like shape.

Imagine the hang time we could get!



the truth
the truth
QLD
189 posts
QLD, 189 posts
11 Aug 2016 6:09pm
Ya know this could work. With the FACT that helium is LIGHTER THAN AIR this could revolutionize kite flying as we know it. I'm exited. We need a Kickstarter for this
bjw
bjw
QLD
3689 posts
bjw bjw
QLD, 3689 posts
11 Aug 2016 6:11pm
How fun would it be to deflate!
kemp90
kemp90
QLD
1694 posts
QLD, 1694 posts
11 Aug 2016 6:21pm
SHUT THE FRONT DOOR!
glendog
glendog
QLD
520 posts
QLD, 520 posts
11 Aug 2016 6:54pm
Cabrinha will make one. Ohh naa wait they just change stuff that already exists. and for the purpose of absolutly nothing. Clicky bars, ball loops. Next will be straps n boots being held to the board with magnets or some silly gimmic.
Dave Whettingsteel
Dave Whettingsteel
WA
1397 posts
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11 Aug 2016 5:08pm
Would be additional recurring cost having to buy helium canisters for inflation, improve relaunch maybe, could be a pain for self launch !
SibboV1
SibboV1
368 posts
368 posts
11 Aug 2016 5:15pm
Dave Whettingsteel said..
Would be additional recurring cost having to buy helium canisters for inflation, improve relaunch maybe, could be a pain for self launch !


Got to get branded/original equipment Helium canisters, not those knock off made in China/Switch ones. Their Helium is low quality and doesn't boost/loop as well.
Peahi
Peahi
VIC
1485 posts
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11 Aug 2016 7:20pm
helium gas is running out as the US war stockpiles are dwindling get it while you can
BennyB12
BennyB12
QLD
918 posts
QLD, 918 posts
11 Aug 2016 8:28pm
Yeah it sucks having a company that dares to have a go at innovation... If it weren't for progressive thinkers you'd still be riding a foil or worse a 2 line bridled C... (Do you know what either of them are?) maybe one day you should have a go of some old school tech and you may think twice before slagging off the pioneers that innovated the safe and easy to use wind bags that we take for granted today...
BennyB12
BennyB12
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918 posts
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11 Aug 2016 8:31pm
glendog said...
Cabrinha will make one. Ohh naa wait they just change stuff that already exists. and for the purpose of absolutly nothing. Clicky bars, ball loops. Next will be straps n boots being held to the board with magnets or some silly gimmic.

As above
Underoath
Underoath
QLD
2434 posts
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11 Aug 2016 11:16pm
I'm no chemist. Why can't you use Hyrogren, it's lighter right?
Youngbreezy
Youngbreezy
WA
1253 posts
WA, 1253 posts
11 Aug 2016 11:26pm
Because your kite will Hindenburg

Chris_M
Chris_M
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2132 posts
12 Aug 2016 3:32am
Underoath said..
I'm no chemist. Why can't you use Hyrogren, it's lighter right?


Explosive pop guaranteed
Adoy
Adoy
NSW
238 posts
NSW, 238 posts
12 Aug 2016 8:30am
ColoColo
ColoColo
QLD
130 posts
QLD, 130 posts
12 Aug 2016 10:07pm
What I would love is a product I can inject into a kite bladder to reduce chances of pops, pin holes and seal any leaks, except valves of course.
CapNRonK
CapNRonK
VIC
19 posts
VIC, 19 posts
12 Aug 2016 10:35pm
The hot balloon stuff is both ridiculous and amazing.
Just2807
Just2807
181 posts
181 posts
12 Aug 2016 10:38pm
+1 for deflating
dave......
dave......
WA
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12 Aug 2016 11:57pm
glendog said..
Cabrinha will make one. Ohh naa wait they just change stuff that already exists. and for the purpose of absolutly nothing. Clicky bars, ball loops. Next will be straps n boots being held to the board with magnets or some silly gimmic.


Cabrinha is is the Apple of the kitesurfing world.
Plummet
Plummet
4862 posts
4862 posts
13 Aug 2016 2:43am
Helium is expensive. Something like $3000 a bottle.
Hyrdogen is cheaper maybe $1500? per bottle.

However both will permeate through plastics. So your kite will go down. How fast? i'm not sure.
Go out and by a bottle of hydrogen and helium and do some tests for us and lets us know how fast the kite goes down and how much extra performance you get!

Let say the average kite has 200 litres of air in it.

That's 256 grams of air.
Or 36 grams of helium Or 19 grams of hydrogen.

So the weight savings will be 223 grams for helium and 241 grams for hydrogen.

pearl
pearl
NSW
984 posts
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13 Aug 2016 5:56am
sir ROWDY said..
what if kite was heliums?




This is nek level stuff. Kites made out of the new D4 ripcloth would work better as they are more airtight, Jumps would have to be reversed because of float. Riders that had maximum control over descent (Maximum Under Free Fall or MUFF divers) would excel. Color of kites would play an even bigger role in performance. Smoking would be banned on all kite beaches. Good question!
hornedsquirrel
hornedsquirrel
SA
55 posts
SA, 55 posts
13 Aug 2016 7:41am
SaveTheWhales
SaveTheWhales
WA
1908 posts
WA, 1908 posts
13 Aug 2016 7:01am
Hydrogen filled Naish Torch
A match made in heaven
Underoath
Underoath
QLD
2434 posts
QLD, 2434 posts
14 Aug 2016 12:43am
Remove struts and have curved carbon rods.

No need for 5 bladders and excess cloth.
SaveTheWhales
SaveTheWhales
WA
1908 posts
WA, 1908 posts
14 Aug 2016 2:57am
Coming from Windsurfing, I too thought that would be a good idea - you could tune for various shapes with tapers..would still need a master like leading edge to lock in shape.

Speed - would go like a bat out of hell
Relaunch - never mind it's the though the that counts - watch the windsurf sails sink like the Titanic

Could be done - never say can't...
Plummet
Plummet
4862 posts
4862 posts
14 Aug 2016 3:00am
Underoath said..
Remove struts and have curved carbon rods.

No need for 5 bladders and excess cloth.


Like this?



The C Quad was around before lei's. Doesn't relaunch very well!
SaveTheWhales
SaveTheWhales
WA
1908 posts
WA, 1908 posts
14 Aug 2016 3:06am
Well there you go - get Robby Naishs kite n windsurf race development team onto it, for a real weapon !
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