had a break for about a year from kitesurfing as i was living in the desert for a bit. was gonna get myself a new bar and noted this new concept of wingsurfing.

looks pretty cool for traveling as it is so compact.
im 80kg 184cm and am thinking like a 6 or 7m wingsurf sail with my unidirectional (5 ft 3) kiteboard. is that possible? the board cannot carry my weight at all so id have to waterstart but it doesnt need much power to float once planing. its quite wide. not keen on foiling atm.

If you want compact, why not get a Nobile splitboard and a foil kite. Then you just need a compact harness really.

There's a video of guys trying this in cape Hatteras in hurricane strength winds doing a Downwinder and still wasn't enough

Kit3kat said..
had a break for about a year from kitesurfing as i was living in the desert for a bit. was gonna get myself a new bar and noted this new concept of wingsurfing.

looks pretty cool for traveling as it is so compact.
im 80kg 184cm and am thinking like a 6 or 7m wingsurf sail with my unidirectional (5 ft 3) kiteboard. is that possible? the board cannot carry my weight at all so id have to waterstart but it doesnt need much power to float once planing. its quite wide. not keen on foiling atm.

Easier and cooler to move back to the desert

There are some videos of guys starting on sinkers but it's usually sitting or kneeling to start.
but definitely not a beginners choice.
kneeling and just buoyant would be minimum but for beginners a real floater is best.

There's quite a big wingding community on the Goldie invariably on foil boards with enough volume to stand without sinking. Some are going in quite light 10-12 knots breezes. Actually thought Seebreeze was starting a new thread for that discipline.

One time windsurfer, long time kiter, been winging for a year.
I can get going in around 10 knots and it becomes fun around 15 with a 5 mtr wing and a big foil.
I would not even consider a wing unless you want to use it with a foil.
Maybe, just maybe, if you have never kited or windsurfed etc you may get a little bit of enjoyment out of cruising around with a wing on an old school windsurfer with a dagger board, or a big Sup with a big fin, for a while.

Anything other than that you are not going to hold ground and it's going to be hard work.

johndg said..
Check out Alan Cadiz on YouTube. There are people riding surfboards now. I have have seen an instructional showing how to start by Alan. there are also people with the board underwater pumping it up onto the surface and then foiling. it can definitely be done but you may need to know what you are doing before you start. I would suggest beginning with a sup foilboard. Check of the sup forms under foiling.

no one riding a surfboard sans foil champ

billygreen said..

johndg said..
Check out Alan Cadiz on YouTube. There are people riding surfboards now. I have have seen an instructional showing how to start by Alan. there are also people with the board underwater pumping it up onto the surface and then foiling. it can definitely be done but you may need to know what you are doing before you start. I would suggest beginning with a sup foilboard. Check of the sup forms under foiling.

no one riding a surfboard sans foil champ

thanks for saving me the time

thanks tightlines!

billygreen said..
Seems like everyone has missed the point on OP's question.

It was in relation to wing foiling a small board WITHOUT a foil. Says he is not keen on foiling ATM.

says he wants to use his 5 3 kite surfboard with the wing. there is a big difference between a nuggety sub 5' wing foil board with foil attached and a 5 3 kite surfboard with no foil. personally i find it hard to believe that it is possible without a foil on a board that small.

Yeah. sorry I did hijack the thread a bit in that second post but you're right, if you read my first reply that is pretty much exactly what I said, it is not going to happen.

"I would not even consider a wing unless you want to use it with a foil."

If anyone even wanted to try, it would have to be on a big SUP at least and would be as boring as plus hard work.

The more drag you have from your board the harder it is to hang onto the wing.

Kit3kat said..
had a break for about a year from kitesurfing as i was living in the desert for a bit. was gonna get myself a new bar and noted this new concept of wingsurfing.

looks pretty cool for traveling as it is so compact.
im 80kg 184cm and am thinking like a 6 or 7m wingsurf sail with my unidirectional (5 ft 3) kiteboard. is that possible? the board cannot carry my weight at all so id have to waterstart but it doesnt need much power to float once planing. its quite wide. not keen on foiling atm.

Someone's been doing it for almost 20 years...

Winging not kitesurfing with short lines and it's not really windsurfing.

Kite lines give you access to a huge window and apparent wind. The window gives you access to wind gradient and the kite naturally positions itself in the ideal place and attitude to get loads of power. A wing has a tiny window, no wind gradient and the slightest movement of the wing can dump power. Those things make it easy to ride with no harness. Bear off just a little and all the load on your arms is gone.

A windsurfer has much more length in the mast and the leverage from the attachment to the deck.

There's a video somewhere of a guy winging on a surfboard in 50 knots. It looked a bit sketchy in terms of the poor control he had.I went out in 40 knots the other day on a SUP foil and it was a bit of a disaster. The wind would pick up the board and send it tumbling down the beach. Riding with the wing and the foil was ok.

I plan to improve my skills and get out with the wing on a 155cm kite foiling board. I think that would be fun in stupid strong winds.