I tried this today with no problems, anyone else doing this or have a better idea ?

Maybe just me but that seem much more complicated than just running your lines??

Good news,
there is a knew app being developed as we speak that will run your lines out for you, saving you 2mins of valuable time and wasted energy walking all that looonng 25 meters.....
The app can be installed on your "go joe" and will communicate with your electric kite pump by WI-fi.

its too easy to stuff up, andonly find out at the other end and then you have to run them out again and re-attach

much better to wind lines in while connected, join centre and steering lines on each side for easy tangle free run out next time

whatever happened to Cabrinha's "line manager" that disappeared quietly...

Thanks for posting this! I would definitely not try this on a beach self-launch where I need to know which side of my bar to pull on as soon as I pull kite into the wind. Because once you have attached the lines to the kite and rolling the lines out from the bar then the bar is going to twist the lines at least a little bit. So if I am self-launching and i pull the wrong steering line (upper) too fast then it can loop and pull me with it which is what happened when I did my first ever self-launch.

One way to avoid this though would be to put something heavy on your kite while it is on the ground and pull the bar when the kite is directly in front of you at 12 so the lines are taught and then rotate the bar to make sure the lines aren't twisted, then once you know which rear lines are which you can walk to the side and pull the kite in to the window.

while yall where debating line wrap I was kiting! yeew.

Same concept here by Greg at BRM. Works well.

Ozone Kites Aus said..
I've posted this many times, even claimed it as my own idea, but its not!
Connect your front lines first and rig downwind or cross wind, put the bar down with red on the right, pick up rear lines and walk them back to kite, keeping front lines between legs. Connect rear lines, go kiting. You cannot make a mistake this way and if you reg straight downwind you can see the lines are connected clearly.
I always rig this way cross wind, have never made a crossed line mistake rigging since I did.

Wouldn't all tat walking back to the kite kind of defeat the purpose? What about bar twists before launch?

eppo said..

Ozone Kites Aus said..
I've posted this many times, even claimed it as my own idea, but its not!
Connect your front lines first and rig downwind or cross wind, put the bar down with red on the right, pick up rear lines and walk them back to kite, keeping front lines between legs. Connect rear lines, go kiting. You cannot make a mistake this way and if you reg straight downwind you can see the lines are connected clearly.
I always rig this way cross wind, have never made a crossed line mistake rigging since I did.

Damn that's a good idea.

That's also the fool proof way of rigging C-kites

colin71 said..
Same concept here by Greg at BRM. Works well.

I love watching Greg's vids & had one of his bars, I could never pack up & get it looking anything like his - always a tangled mess.
IMO, Greg comes across as one of the coolest dudes in kite boarding today.

toppleover said..
I like Ozones idea - idiot proof,
twists in the front lines don't matter (as long as you have a swivel). Then you just run the back lines out, as normal.

Then how will you know which line to pull when you launch? Isn't launching with twisted lines a bit sketchy? Like if they twist too far up or more on one side?

I think I have found the answer to tangled lines, a winder on the bar!!

drewpweiner said..

Ozone Kites Aus said..
I've posted this many times, even claimed it as my own idea, but its not!
Connect your front lines first and rig downwind or cross wind, put the bar down with red on the right, pick up rear lines and walk them back to kite, keeping front lines between legs. Connect rear lines, go kiting. You cannot make a mistake this way and if you reg straight downwind you can see the lines are connected clearly.
I always rig this way cross wind, have never made a crossed line mistake rigging since I did.

Wouldn't all tat walking back to the kite kind of defeat the purpose? What about bar twists before launch?

You only walk back to your kite once, and you cannot make a mistake, if you follow my simple steps.

Front line flagging systems work with multiple twists in the lines. BUT I've never needed to activate my QR when I self launch.

AND I also ensure that the flagging line will be on the top when I come in to finish a session, so I then use my QR to land the kite, safely, in any wind.

NorthernKitesAUS said..

eppo said..

Ozone Kites Aus said..
I've posted this many times, even claimed it as my own idea, but its not!
Connect your front lines first and rig downwind or cross wind, put the bar down with red on the right, pick up rear lines and walk them back to kite, keeping front lines between legs. Connect rear lines, go kiting. You cannot make a mistake this way and if you reg straight downwind you can see the lines are connected clearly.
I always rig this way cross wind, have never made a crossed line mistake rigging since I did.

Damn that's a good idea.

That's also the fool proof way of rigging C-kites

The idea was born back in the C kite days.

eppo said..
Tried it today with my sons 8m cat today. Works a treat, makes sense. Why the hell I haven't thought of it before. Nice. Ta.

Hmmmmm, I was home having a beer before he got to the bar.

NorthernKitesAUS said..

Ozone Kites Aus said..

1. Connect your front lines first and rig (unwind lines) downwind or cross wind
2. put the bar down with red on the right (always!)
3. pick up rear lines and walk them back to kite, keeping front lines between legs
4. Connect rear lines, go kiting.

You cannot make a mistake this way and if you reg straight downwind you can see the lines are connected clearly.

I always rig this way cross wind, have never made a crossed line mistake rigging since I did.

Thanks Ozone. I just wanted to re-iterate your post again albeit some added bits, and I've numbered it so it's easier to read (for me).

This is the best way really. And fast too! Trying to separate 4 or 5 lines at once walking back to the kite is a pain due to the number of possible twists.

However, I still wind my lines 0-way not figure-8. The lines are less twisted (each line twisted separately) this way.

I'm not clear on what your question is, or what bits you've added? Anyway I'm glad some people see the value in this method and its helpful to get on the water quicker and safer.
Remember to always look at your front bridles and make sure they are clear and not fouled on themselves.