Twin tip hydrofoil

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w8ingforwind
w8ingforwind
QLD
259 posts
QLD, 259 posts
16 Apr 2016 3:52pm
I'm puting this one out there. has any one tried to make a twin tip hydrofoil board ,seen anyone riding one or have pics or film of one.
I would like to have a go at making one but know there would be a lot of challenges in making it work well. All input welcome.
KiteBud
KiteBud
WA
1613 posts
WA, 1613 posts
16 Apr 2016 2:43pm
You can mount a foil on just about any board you'd like really. It's just a matter of having a board strong enough and a strong enough mounting system for it.



Some of the boards these guys use look just like twin tips to me. Of course you wouldn't be able to use your TT straps since foils are directional... so either go strapless or put maybe one bi-directional strap for the front foot at least. You could stick surfboard pads on top or make some kind of grippy surface.

It could be a good project if you have a TT that would otherwise go to waste. The other challenge is finding the right position to mount it under the board, I'm sure others on this forum could advise you with this.

Christian
w8ingforwind
w8ingforwind
QLD
259 posts
QLD, 259 posts
16 Apr 2016 5:31pm
Thanks for the input. I'm talking a hydrofoil that will fly in both directions. I was thinking symmetrical c or j foils that mount on the tow side tips of the board.
KiteBud
KiteBud
WA
1613 posts
WA, 1613 posts
16 Apr 2016 3:42pm
w8ingforwind said..
Thanks for the input. I'm talking a hydrofoil that will fly in both directions. I was thinking symmetrical c or j foils that mount on the tow side tips of the board.


I'm afraid that's a technical impossibility....each wing under the foil is not only directional with a leading edge and trailing edge, but they both have a distinct function, therefore a different size and shape.

Foils fly, a bit like plane wings, you wouldn't be able to fly a plane backwards...same goes for the foil.
craggers
craggers
WA
475 posts
WA, 475 posts
16 Apr 2016 3:58pm
cbulota said...
w8ingforwind said..
Thanks for the input. I'm talking a hydrofoil that will fly in both directions. I was thinking symmetrical c or j foils that mount on the tow side tips of the board.


I'm afraid that's a technical impossibility....each wing under the foil is not only directional with a leading edge and trailing edge, but they both have a distinct function, therefore a different size and shape.

Foils fly, a bit like plane wings, you wouldn't be able to fly a plane backwards...same goes for the foil.


Dont worry w8tingforwind.
History is full of ppl who grappled with something 'impossible'. The first ones to crack it become the Wright brothers of their chosen thrill. Nothing is impossible. It IS possible to design a foil that works in both directions. Fkn hard and maybe years or decades away, but it will happen. Waterskiing behind a kite was impossible once.
dafish
dafish
NSW
1654 posts
NSW, 1654 posts
16 Apr 2016 6:07pm
I mounted my foil on an old Naish twin tip. I had snapped the fish I had rigged up to learn on, and the tt was only temporary until I shaped the Paipo. Bottom line, it sucked. The swing weight didn't feel right. Yes I could ride it, but I didn't realize how awful it was until I jumped on the Paipo.
w8ingforwind
w8ingforwind
QLD
259 posts
QLD, 259 posts
16 Apr 2016 6:14pm
craggers said..

cbulota said...

w8ingforwind said..
Thanks for the input. I'm talking a hydrofoil that will fly in both directions. I was thinking symmetrical c or j foils that mount on the tow side tips of the board.



I'm afraid that's a technical impossibility....each wing under the foil is not only directional with a leading edge and trailing edge, but they both have a distinct function, therefore a different size and shape.

Foils fly, a bit like plane wings, you wouldn't be able to fly a plane backwards...same goes for the foil.



Dont worry w8tingforwind.
History is full of ppl who grappled with something 'impossible'. The first ones to crack it become the Wright brothers of their chosen thrill. Nothing is impossible. It IS possible to design a foil that works in both directions. Fkn hard and maybe years or decades away, but it will happen. Waterskiing behind a kite was impossible once.


I refuse to accept your realty and subsitute my own
Kamikuza
Kamikuza
QLD
6493 posts
QLD, 6493 posts
16 Apr 2016 6:20pm
Guy on KF made one...he gave up on it for a regular one, that should tell you enough.
strydz
strydz
QLD
136 posts
QLD, 136 posts
16 Apr 2016 6:41pm


strydz
strydz
QLD
136 posts
QLD, 136 posts
16 Apr 2016 6:46pm

This is a better clip works but not real well
w8ingforwind
w8ingforwind
QLD
259 posts
QLD, 259 posts
16 Apr 2016 6:58pm
thanks for the video as cbulota said leading and trailing edge vary important not to mention the shape of the foil.
INTHELOOP
INTHELOOP
QLD
1855 posts
QLD, 1855 posts
19 Apr 2016 2:35pm
Alex Aguera makes some twin tip style board.Problem is when you touch down you don't have enough floatation.Plus you need some surface area to move on especially when doing manoeuvres.Current high end foil boards are getting closer to twin tip sizing. 140-150cm x 42-47cm. 2.5kg
Gorgo
Gorgo
VIC
5124 posts
VIC, 5124 posts
19 Apr 2016 7:36pm
I'm not sure why you would want a bi-directional hydrofoil. The pleasure of foiling is the pure feeling of flight. All that comes from the speed and the physical stance you are in. A bi-directional would compromise that hugely.

One of the nicest things is to carve a nice foil gybe. They're not hard to do (I can do them so they can't be that hard.)

As for the board itself, I guess for travel purposes you could easily drill some holes into a TT and bolt your foil on the bottom and go riding. I would be worried that the board and foil would not float above the surface. It would be very sad to see my incredibly expensive foil sinking to the bottom.
w8ingforwind
w8ingforwind
QLD
259 posts
QLD, 259 posts
20 Apr 2016 8:10am
My new board



wingman
wingman
VIC
126 posts
VIC, 126 posts
20 Apr 2016 9:13am
This was an old cabrinha chopstick now a foilboard it used to sink until I put the cheap foam on the deck no probs now
changing the straps to three strap config it's heaps litghter than my LF foil I'm riding at the moment The deck foam is from Bunnings $17 bucks for 4 big squares,feels great under foot ,grippy

dafish
dafish
NSW
1654 posts
NSW, 1654 posts
20 Apr 2016 10:29am
well that is waaaaaay cheaper for your foam deck than normal pads that are 50 bucks each! Wish I would have thought of that before I purchased two pads for my Paipo.
w8ingforwind
w8ingforwind
QLD
259 posts
QLD, 259 posts
20 Apr 2016 11:10am
it looks nice to green
wingman
wingman
VIC
126 posts
VIC, 126 posts
20 Apr 2016 3:54pm
Just need to buy contact and some cheapo brushes to stick it on,Bunnings and masters to get the whole lot
sswweeet
windykid
windykid
QLD
368 posts
QLD, 368 posts
22 Apr 2016 10:23am


There you go big bro

antoniuccio
antoniuccio
1 posts
1 posts
17 Oct 2016 2:18am
You australian are a bit bihind..look here..


and here.. www.foilever.com/en/blog-news-kitefoil/18_Iero-Foil-kitefoil-twin-tip-adaptable.html
kiteboy dave
kiteboy dave
QLD
6525 posts
QLD, 6525 posts
17 Oct 2016 6:21am
There were 3 that came out together. Iero bolt on your TT, brunotti with inflatable board, and another Euro that the wing moves along the fuse.

I wouldn't bother with any
waynos
waynos
TAS
171 posts
TAS, 171 posts
17 Oct 2016 7:27am
You guys have got short memories. Google inflatable hydrofoil kiteboard and watch the video that was on here a couple of months ago.
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