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Ericson
Ericson
WA
111 posts
WA, 111 posts
24 Dec 2016 9:01pm
Merry Christmas folks. Not sure how it came off, but I dont seem to be able to push this hard sleeve back over the hose to secure it on to the little nozzle. Any tips?



FlyByKite
FlyByKite
WA
103 posts
WA, 103 posts
24 Dec 2016 9:41pm
Slide the clamp up the tube away from the valve then -
Push sleeve while pulling the rubber hose to stretch it and make it thinner
- should be able to get it right to the end.
cauncy
cauncy
WA
8407 posts
WA, 8407 posts
24 Dec 2016 9:47pm
You've only slept with loose women
Ericson
Ericson
WA
111 posts
WA, 111 posts
24 Dec 2016 11:27pm
FlyByKite said...
Slide the clamp up the tube away from the valve then -
Push sleeve while pulling the rubber hose to stretch it and make it thinner
- should be able to get it right to the end.


I tried that but I still don't seem to be able to force it over. I'm obviously lacking either the dexterity or the patience. I'll have another go tomorrow.

Plummet
Plummet
4862 posts
4862 posts
25 Dec 2016 2:57am
Put it in some boiling hot water to soften it up. Then push it on
Anthony66
Anthony66
NSW
2 posts
NSW, 2 posts
25 Dec 2016 6:54am
Just get a small cable tie, cut off tthe excess once secured around the hose.
Rails
Rails
QLD
1371 posts
QLD, 1371 posts
25 Dec 2016 6:45am
Ericson said..
Merry Christmas folks. Not sure how it came off, but I dont seem to be able to push this hard sleeve back over the hose to secure it on to the little nozzle. Any tips?





Lube it up mate, either spit or soapy water will work
or take if off and use a zip tie
Brohan
Brohan
VIC
528 posts
VIC, 528 posts
25 Dec 2016 8:23am
You don't really need to put it back on as I just left mine off, I was able to get them back on by pulling the rubber one way while pushing the plastic tube the other, seemed to make the rubber just a tad bit thinner to make the plastic tube slide down.
sirstomp
sirstomp
VIC
98 posts
VIC, 98 posts
25 Dec 2016 9:15am
Check out this Ozone vid on strut bladder replacement.



Go to 3:50 to see the technique to get the PU retainers back over the tube and strut valve/nozzle.
This vid shows it perfectly.
If you put the PU retainers in a mug of hot/boiling water they become much more flexible, of course.

NorthernKitesAUS
NorthernKitesAUS
QLD
1084 posts
QLD, 1084 posts
25 Dec 2016 8:59am
Oh for crying out loud. Just insert the rubber tube over the tip of the nozzel, and pull or push the plastic ring cover down WITH the rubber tube over the nozzle. Yes, a little lube goes a long way too, if you must.
ps. the plastic cover btw has two ends, one with a lip and the other without. The without side is the one that should be pointing towards the base of the valve.
ajs18s
ajs18s
QLD
60 posts
QLD, 60 posts
25 Dec 2016 9:18am
If one was to replace the little rubber tubes what would one use? I know the kite shops would sell but after alternatives and ideas.
NorthernKitesAUS
NorthernKitesAUS
QLD
1084 posts
QLD, 1084 posts
25 Dec 2016 9:22am
ajs18s said..
If one was to replace the little rubber tubes what would one use? I know the kite shops would sell but after alternatives and ideas.


Dive shops have that tubing by the meter, as it's the same tube used for spear guns. 3mm and 5mm are common. The clips by the way can be sought from a medical centre. The clips are used for drip tubes
Ericson
Ericson
WA
111 posts
WA, 111 posts
25 Dec 2016 8:18am
Success. Thanks gang.
NorthernKitesAUS
NorthernKitesAUS
QLD
1084 posts
QLD, 1084 posts
26 Dec 2016 5:35pm
Ericson said...
Success. Thanks gang.

Well tell us. What did you do?
Plummet
Plummet
4862 posts
4862 posts
26 Dec 2016 7:12pm
sirstomp said..
Check out this Ozone vid on strut bladder replacement.



Go to 3:50 to see the technique to get the PU retainers back over the tube and strut valve/nozzle.
This vid shows it perfectly.
If you put the PU retainers in a mug of hot/boiling water they become much more flexible, of course.



Got to love these instructional videos using brand new undamaged gear. It looks so damn easy. Then when you go to do it on your old gear that's been through the rinse cycle and is covered in sand and plastic parts are old and stiff and hard and don't want to come apart and the bladder never slips in easily and It magically gets twisted even though you pulled it straight

****ers should use and old ****ed kite and show a real world bladder replacement on a used old piece of **** kite.

Rant over.
Ericson
Ericson
WA
111 posts
WA, 111 posts
26 Dec 2016 10:05pm
DylanJamo said...
Ericson said...
Success. Thanks gang.

Well tell us. What did you do?



Persisted, and managed to force it MOST of the way on. There was still a little bit of the tube pinched in the small gap that remained, but I had said "f#$%" enough times so near enough hopefully is good enough.

I did try the boiling water, but by the time i slid it onto the tube and slid the tube onto the nozzle, it had hardened again. The ozone video helped, at least I knew I was doing it the right way, but it was nowhere near as easy as the video made it look.

Hopefully it holds.
Plummet
Plummet
4862 posts
4862 posts
27 Dec 2016 1:33am
Ericson said..

DylanJamo said...

Ericson said...
Success. Thanks gang.


Well tell us. What did you do?






I did try the boiling water, but by the time i slid it onto the tube and slid the tube onto the nozzle, it had hardened again.

Hopefully it holds.


Next time get a little glass fill it with the boiling water. Dunk the hose in there for maybe 1 min. Yourl then have a good minute to push it on before it goes hard again.
NSW, 884 posts
28 Dec 2016 8:39am
Ericson said..

DylanJamo said...

Ericson said...
Success. Thanks gang.


Well tell us. What did you do?




Persisted, and managed to force it MOST of the way on. There was still a little bit of the tube pinched in the small gap that remained, but I had said "f#$%" enough times so near enough hopefully is good enough.

I did try the boiling water, but by the time i slid it onto the tube and slid the tube onto the nozzle, it had hardened again. The ozone video helped, at least I knew I was doing it the right way, but it was nowhere near as easy as the video made it look.

Hopefully it holds.


The video does make it look deceptively easy! Hot water does not work well because to get it hot enough to make a difference means you will burn your hand trying to push it on.
I've found this technique to help a lot. Get 2 screwdrivers that fit inside the black retainer piece of black PU tube, just. Then push the screwdrivers in opposite directions to stretch the black tube, then quickly reassemble and push hard while stretching the inflation tube, spit helps. The retainer piece does not need to go right to the valve a gap of 1-2mm is fine. The flexible inflation tube is extremely strong and stretchy, you can pull on it really hard.

I've seen them pulled off a kite by accident when people grab them to assist with launching or landing.
SaveTheWhales
SaveTheWhales
WA
1908 posts
WA, 1908 posts
28 Dec 2016 6:15am
Just put a zip tie on it and stop fluffing about...
Peahi
Peahi
VIC
1485 posts
VIC, 1485 posts
28 Dec 2016 10:37pm
Anthony66 said..
Just get a small cable tie, cut off tthe excess once secured around the hose.


+1 make sure you file it a bit too after cutting, the cut cable tie can be quite sharp and tear the canopy when packed.
Phoney
Phoney
NSW
608 posts
NSW, 608 posts
29 Dec 2016 4:52pm
Fk me! This happened to me today. Googled it and stumbled upon this thread.

Except on mine the little black plastic sleeve, ring thing has disappeared! I tried looking for it but no go. Anyway lucky it happened at the carpark on packdown and not out in the surf. Now to find either a cable tie or ring clamp supplier in Byron at this time of year....
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