Just a reminder...

General rule, not absolute.

A reference:
kiteboardingwa.org.au/right-of-way-rules/

But if your from
France
Spain
Brazil
China
Japan
or the eastern states ,the rule does not apply to you ...

And if they are wearing those airbud headphones they cant hear you when you yell out Starboard. They also cant hear anything approaching from their blind spot including powered vessels.

I hope Pilot Pete isn't wearing airbud headphones

Sandfoot said..
Starboard rule is ****ty.

Person with the best advantage has right of way.......Just let the rider with the upwind advantage have right of way, easy.

Stops having to slow down and be all cheesy with a rule book.

With no radar onboard ain't ALWAYS easy to figure out who's actually upwind... That's why there's rules... one person mistakes/ignorance should not affect others, and rules/guidelines are there for this.

By the way, your keenness to no slowing down could be similar to someone else keenness to not loose way/course?

aint no deafer than anyone not willing to listen

Sandfoot said..

newbie23562 said..

Sandfoot said..
Starboard rule is ****ty.

Person with the best advantage has right of way.......Just let the rider with the upwind advantage have right of way, easy.

Stops having to slow down and be all cheesy with a rule book.

With no radar onboard ain't ALWAYS easy to figure out who's actually upwind... That's why there's rules... one person mistakes/ignorance should not affect others, and rules/guidelines are there for this.

By the way, your keenness to no slowing down could be similar to someone else keenness to not loose way/course?

aint no deafer than anyone not willing to listen

yeah sure, if there's no advantage to either rider - Starboard rule, generally speed into the wind means upwind.

you could always have the rules tattooed on you and show them to all present on the water - Just incase know one knows

Nothing that you or me would really care, but your explanation of the meaning upwind can be improved mate

Mmmm not a tattoo, maybe signs at the beach entrance? There are for surf etiquette, so I guess there could be one for sailing also? But I see that could help to some extents only

When Harsh words and rules don't work.. try Art

I'll give it a go Sandfoot

Sorry had a case of the grumps

eddiemorgs said..
In waves , the person on the wave has right of way

Said no one on a TT boosting off a ramp ever.... :-)

Indeed the advantage can work, probably best amongst more experience riders and friends (or friendly folks). But on a beach break, with both "locals" and downwinders passing by, a standard rule on collision courses can be more effective (in my newbie opinion)

Rider on a wave or approaching a known freestyle area have advantage, no doubt.

Downwinders generally f@*k the whole lot up, freight trains on tracks, right of way since loading the second car at the downwind carpark
(Sorry for the rant)

Don't forget, many newbees will have great difficulty changing course and raising or lowering their kite. We've all been there. They are easy to spot so give them plenty of room whether you have the right-of-way or not.

Starboard!!!! said no one ever while kiting.

wishy said..
If you are sixty foot in the air, and someone keeps riding towards you for seven seconds straight, who is in the wrong?

Should you have megalooped to land further downwind and avoid them?

I think this has been covered before.
If you can loop, you should always loop.

General riding it should never come into play. person slightly downwind just lower their kite and person upwind raise their kite.
It's just common sense and a little courtesy. Whats really to gain by beating other people to a higher wind position? (other than racing)

When kiting with boats around, Live by the basic simple rule, Might has right.
Yelling starboard at a speed boat wont see you get far, but to a hospital.

Clueless.

As kiters since time began in kiting those further upwind.. keep them upwind.

Stop trying to reinvent the sports history like those idiots that are trying to say kiting is sailing. We are our own sport, always were, always will be... with our own considerations and safety needs. As for court.. wtf, great positivity there.. good luck with this .

Is this more dodgy kitesurfing australia agenda politics. .. let's reinvent kiting as a different sport (sailing) because there is funding available from sailing?

Keep kites classified as surf craft.. which they are.. in QLD.

And yes of course we do everything possible to avoid collisions.. especially with other vessels not least because impacts are straight to skin and bone and we therefore have the most to lose.

As far as kiter vs kiter, they are very cautious.. more than other vessels imo because we know flying a kite we have increased risks such as tangling kites together/ getting thrown/ looped which has caused death.

Any kiter that trys to get their agenda of shouting starboard at another kiter.. good luck with that lol!

Bizarre.

I propose a dont be a total dick rule.
so no boosting too close to others.
no showing off near newbies.
dont charge in close to the beach with a big air when someone is entering the water.
dont suddenly edge hard upwind in a head on situation.
Dont suddenly change direction and abuse others just because you are on a surfboard.
help others launch and land.
dont wear shorts over wetsuits.
Oh and you can smile, cheer others big moves, thumbs ups etc.