Oz custom kite surfboard shapers?

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jeff0
jeff0
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10 posts
19 Nov 2019 5:00pm
Looking for a new custom board. Any recommendations? All help appreciated. Cheers
ActionSportsWA
ActionSportsWA
WA
1005 posts
WA, 1005 posts
19 Nov 2019 6:10pm
The best is Marty Littlewood of Delta Designs in Margaret River. Marty shaped for North Kiteboarding before shaping the Revamp, one of the most successful kite "surf" boards ever.

He does customs and one offs. He'll probably try and persuade you onto one of his latest passions, the "Assy". The guys is a living surfing legend. Give him a call. Bloody nice fella and a talented muso to boot.

DM
dafish
dafish
NSW
1654 posts
NSW, 1654 posts
20 Nov 2019 7:49am
Plus one for the Delta. The Shmook boards look very nice too but have not ridden one yet.
FOT
FOT
WA
101 posts
FOT FOT
WA, 101 posts
20 Nov 2019 5:13am
+1 on the smook. I haven't ridden, but guys that have rate them. Great Vader type designs, nice resin tints and layups.
bjw
bjw
QLD
3689 posts
bjw bjw
QLD, 3689 posts
20 Nov 2019 8:08am
Warner and Black Sheep are the go on kite specific design and construction on the East Coast.
CapNRonK
CapNRonK
VIC
19 posts
VIC, 19 posts
20 Nov 2019 11:54am
+2 for Smook. I'm on my third one. Great boards, I go for his more traditional surfboard design over the vader-type, but have tried both and like both. I also go for slightly heavier glassing than his standard, but I've got a penchant for landing jumps very badly.
jeff0
jeff0
10 posts
10 posts
20 Nov 2019 11:29am
Thankyou very much to all
Now with many options who to choose
Found this old thread 2013 in case anyone looking as well
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Kitesurfing/General/Local-surfboard-shapers-Who-to-go-with?page=1
Cheers
MikeyG
MikeyG
WA
156 posts
WA, 156 posts
20 Nov 2019 8:05pm
I got this one from Sunova. It's a 5'3" Darth so as the name suggests, it's a copy of a Vader. Pity you can't get the Vader in Australia as it might have cost less!

Went with Sunova as I've got a paddleboard from them and it's nearly indestructible and a great ride. The kite board has been the same - super light too. My Firewire kite board literally got a ding on the first day.

Paint job is custom. Cost me $1,200 including quad and tri fins and delivery. Only problem - fins are FCS so range can be limited.


Eye of the storm
Eye of the storm
QLD
131 posts
QLD, 131 posts
22 Nov 2019 9:28am
Blacksheep by Matty Green. Great boards and great glass job. I've had two and they just keep going despite years of use surfing and kiting them daily.
CJ2478
CJ2478
NSW
484 posts
NSW, 484 posts
22 Nov 2019 11:03am
If you have half a brain, some spare time and possess some craftsmanship you should look into making your own.

A phd in fluid dynamics isnt necessary, shaping is mostly common sense. Go with what you know works and trust your intuitions.

Here is one I prepared earlier. 5 10 stringerless eps blank glassed in double bias basalt and S-2 fibreglass and pretty much indestructible. White pigment in filler/sanding resin layer to give "distressed" effect.

Inspired by Al Merrick Proton (Dane Reynolds pro model) and the Taj Firewire model. Although I didnt do it with this board it is very easy to replicate boards in the Akushaper software.

Total cost was around $330.










DutchRooster
DutchRooster
NSW
325 posts
NSW, 325 posts
22 Nov 2019 3:02pm
bjw said..
Warner and Black Sheep are the go on kite specific design and construction on the East Coast.


+1 on both shapers.

Warner is a well known shaper. I've had 3 boards made by him, and know of a dozen or so other kiters on the East coast that have used him. All seem pretty happy with the result. He's a busy guy though!Black Sheep boards seem to hold up really well. The shaper is a kitesurfer himself which helps in terms of understanding what needs to be reinforced, shapes, etc. Haven't bought one of his boards yet but might try him next!
Taka88
Taka88
WA
22 posts
WA, 22 posts
22 Nov 2019 2:18pm
+1 on Smook, Have Mk4 Shredder, it's awesome!
Livit
Livit
WA
542 posts
WA, 542 posts
22 Nov 2019 7:42pm
CJ2478 said..
If you have half a brain, some spare time and possess some craftsmanship you should look into making your own.

A phd in fluid dynamics isnt necessary, shaping is mostly common sense. Go with what you know works and trust your intuitions.

Here is one I prepared earlier. 5 10 stringerless eps blank glassed in double bias basalt and S-2 fibreglass and pretty much indestructible. White pigment in filler/sanding resin layer to give "distressed" effect.

Inspired by Al Merrick Proton (Dane Reynolds pro model) and the Taj Firewire model. Although I didnt do it with this board it is very easy to replicate boards in the Akushaper software.

Total cost was around $330.









If done properly, shaping your first board is not gonna save you any money. To do a decent job, you'll need tools that aren't cheap. A decent half face mask and cartridges, etc...

By the way, the deck of that boards really looks like the choice of foam wasn't right or it could have done with a sandwich build.
billygreen
billygreen
91 posts
91 posts
23 Nov 2019 6:43am
Livit said..




CJ2478 said..
If you have half a brain, some spare time and possess some craftsmanship you should look into making your own.

A phd in fluid dynamics isnt necessary, shaping is mostly common sense. Go with what you know works and trust your intuitions.

Here is one I prepared earlier. 5 10 stringerless eps blank glassed in double bias basalt and S-2 fibreglass and pretty much indestructible. White pigment in filler/sanding resin layer to give "distressed" effect.

Inspired by Al Merrick Proton (Dane Reynolds pro model) and the Taj Firewire model. Although I didnt do it with this board it is very easy to replicate boards in the Akushaper software.

Total cost was around $330.













If done properly, shaping your first board is not gonna save you any money. To do a decent job, you'll need tools that aren't cheap. A decent half face mask and cartridges, etc...

By the way, the deck of that boards really looks like the choice of foam wasn't right or it could have done with a sandwich build.





Haha are you serious? $330 + cost of respirator ($100) + router ($100) + orbital sander ($100) = $630 which is a saving of about 50% on
production boards.

edit: assume machine shaping to avoid cost of purchase of decent electric planer, avoid having to build or purchase decent shaping racks, reduce dust, reduce change of f***ups etc
Livit
Livit
WA
542 posts
WA, 542 posts
23 Nov 2019 8:22am
billygreen said..






If done properly, shaping your first board is not gonna save you any money. To do a decent job, you'll need tools that aren't cheap. A decent half face mask and cartridges, etc...

By the way, the deck of that boards really looks like the choice of foam wasn't right or it could have done with a sandwich build




Haha are you serious? $330 + cost of respirator ($100) + router ($100) + orbital sander ($100) = $630 which is a saving of about 50% on
production boards.

edit: assume machine shaping to avoid cost of purchase of decent electric planer, avoid having to build or purchase decent shaping racks, reduce dust, reduce change of f***ups etc


Yes, I am serious. For $650-$750 you get a one season old quality board (a mate recently scored a Sunova in kite construction and in brand new condition for just $550).

The board pictured has massive compression on the deck which clearly shows that the laminate schedule is questionable and that it would have benefited from a vacuum sandwiched deck in foot area. And for a vacuum bagging set up, unless you're a handyman and can turn your old fridge compressor into a vac pump, you're up for a couple more hundred bucks....

You probably also found out that you could benefit from a router jig for Fin boxes which are generally between $80 and $250.

Bottom line is if you are just after one board, you are not gonna save any money by making it yourself vs buying a good used one.
bjw
bjw
QLD
3689 posts
bjw bjw
QLD, 3689 posts
23 Nov 2019 1:42pm
CJ that board looks sick. Good on you for having a go. Share future boards as well. It'll be good to see how they morph and advance!!!
CJ2478
CJ2478
NSW
484 posts
NSW, 484 posts
23 Nov 2019 4:31pm
Livit said..

billygreen said..







If done properly, shaping your first board is not gonna save you any money. To do a decent job, you'll need tools that aren't cheap. A decent half face mask and cartridges, etc...

By the way, the deck of that boards really looks like the choice of foam wasn't right or it could have done with a sandwich build





Haha are you serious? $330 + cost of respirator ($100) + router ($100) + orbital sander ($100) = $630 which is a saving of about 50% on
production boards.

edit: assume machine shaping to avoid cost of purchase of decent electric planer, avoid having to build or purchase decent shaping racks, reduce dust, reduce change of f***ups etc



Yes, I am serious. For $650-$750 you get a one season old quality board (a mate recently scored a Sunova in kite construction and in brand new condition for just $550).

The board pictured has massive compression on the deck which clearly shows that the laminate schedule is questionable and that it would have benefited from a vacuum sandwiched deck in foot area. And for a vacuum bagging set up, unless you're a handyman and can turn your old fridge compressor into a vac pump, you're up for a couple more hundred bucks....

You probably also found out that you could benefit from a router jig for Fin boxes which are generally between $80 and $250.

Bottom line is if you are just after one board, you are not gonna save any money by making it yourself vs buying a good used one.


Thanks for the advice, you sound like the expert.
included in the 330$ was also cost to hire a shaping bay and futures jig and router, but doable with a simple jig if you have the ingenuity.
I am working on a layup that allows some denting because I like the feel
of them and act as a bit of a sweet spot. The double bias basalt cloth allows it to 'settle' in those spots under your feet without de lamination or brittle failure of the laminate. If youR background is from shortboard surfing you know the feeling. Each to their own thohere is an earlier one I did which I would use if going for a session to focus on strapless jumps with pretty minimal denting (it has a layer of 100mm carbon uni tape under heals)










Falco
Falco
106 posts
106 posts
28 Nov 2019 2:01pm
Just got a new custom vadar copy from Glen Stone, cant wait to get it wet ????. Glen was super nice and easy to deal with and best part 4 weeks turn around, fastest wa shaper that's made a board for me.













smook
smook
VIC
205 posts
VIC, 205 posts
3 Dec 2019 11:20am
Always great to see kiters support local custom boards like Black Sheep ,Delta etc long as they are made in Aus I have a page just some of boards made over the years on Instagram #smookepoxykitesurfingboards
bjw
bjw
QLD
3689 posts
bjw bjw
QLD, 3689 posts
3 Dec 2019 12:31pm
I tried a Smook board a couple of weeks ago. They are killing it. Great board.
mazdon
mazdon
1199 posts
1199 posts
4 Dec 2019 8:11am
Falco said..
Just got a new custom vadar copy from Glen Stone, cant wait to get it wet ????. Glen was super nice and easy to deal with and best part 4 weeks turn around, fastest wa shaper that's made a board for me.














sick! very tidy looking

i ride Vons, feel great - pretty durable to date, can't and won't complain as we're spoilt for choice with some great shapers mentioned above. get out there and get a local (or aus made) custom folks - and post more pics!
Dj Atak
Dj Atak
WA
75 posts
WA, 75 posts
4 Dec 2019 9:23am




My little weapon!!.. made from our local shaper Mr. stone here in Geraldton...
absolutely love the board??
BrendanRobb
BrendanRobb
WA
81 posts
WA, 81 posts
4 Dec 2019 12:56pm
this is a great thread, some of these pics are giving me GAS (gear acquisition syndrome)
smook
smook
VIC
205 posts
VIC, 205 posts
4 Dec 2019 4:19pm
We experimented on bagged epoxy with carbon double bias and 5oz clear top and bottom EPS blank with stringer and orange filler coat on our normal Shredder MK4 5'2" x 18" x 2" 1.8 kg it's a weapon loving it on east coast Vic May be to light for WA conditions but will try it out in Scarborough in January










Gazuki
Gazuki
WA
1363 posts
WA, 1363 posts
4 Dec 2019 1:49pm
How good is the bat tail, looks like a sci-fi cross BWS stallion, but the best parts of both, bat tail, grab rails, stub nose, nice and light so it sticks to your feet,.. very nice design.
Kite2Surf
Kite2Surf
16 posts
16 posts
4 Dec 2019 9:13pm
+1 for Stoney in Geraldton, fast turnaround and makes a strong kite proof board. Bat tails need channels!






BrendanRobb
BrendanRobb
WA
81 posts
WA, 81 posts
5 Dec 2019 8:06am
I used to have a Stone surfboard a few years ago, great board. Good to know he's still cranking out some weapons!
bjw
bjw
QLD
3689 posts
bjw bjw
QLD, 3689 posts
5 Dec 2019 11:09am
I love the red carbon strips!
jeff0
jeff0
10 posts
10 posts
11 Dec 2019 4:40pm
Just arrived
Mastercrafted by Mark Stone in Gero. Built strong. Custom fins





DJMWA
DJMWA
WA
345 posts
WA, 345 posts
11 Dec 2019 7:45pm
jeff0 said..
Just arrived
Mastercrafted by Mark Stone in Gero. Built strong. Custom fins






Ooo I like the looks of that. What dims and more details please.
jeff0
jeff0
10 posts
10 posts
12 Dec 2019 7:59am
Hey DJMWA. The photos don't do it justice!
6"" * 18'3/4 * 2''5/16 Glass/carbon fibre. Have straps
Built bit thicker for my 80kg and lighter east coast wind
Bit extra length for choppier cross on waves
Mark is a legend, easy going, master shaper/glasser
Pm sent (extra info)
jeff
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