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au_rick
au_rick
WA
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WA, 752 posts
9 Aug 2010 11:55am
"Big Up" to all you guys kiting on metro beaches - NOT !!!!

Said it before and I'll say it again, if you don't exercise some common sense and stop kiting on suburban swimming beaches we'll all be banned.



coreyb
coreyb
WA
463 posts
WA, 463 posts
9 Aug 2010 12:27pm
If we dont kite at Metro Beaches, where would you suggest?

We live in a metro area and kite the metro beaches.



koma
koma
VIC
760 posts
VIC, 760 posts
9 Aug 2010 2:32pm
I'd give a big up to the moron who gave the article that title, in direct contrast to the last paragraph stating that it wasn't a move to ban, just restrict access to ensure safe use of the beach by ALL beach users.

Where did that article come from?
au_rick
au_rick
WA
752 posts
WA, 752 posts
9 Aug 2010 12:39pm
Sunday Times

Agreed with regard to the sensationalist title of the article too !

Kite away from swimming areas would be my suggestion, there's a lot of coastline, just maybe drive a bit further and stay away from other beach users ?

My guess is that bans on many locations will force people further afield anyway.

I know it's only a handful that draw attention and create bad publicity but that's all it seems to take.
dusta
dusta
WA
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9 Aug 2010 1:18pm
au_rick said...


I know it's only a handful that draw attention and create bad publicity but that's all it seems to take.


and it doesn't help with that video of the wa wave comp thread , that video is exactly the sort of **** that isn't helping the cause
WAKSA
WAKSA
WA
813 posts
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9 Aug 2010 1:49pm
In order to try & placate concerned Perth metro kiters before this thread becomes entirely toxic, some clarity on the Sunday Times article.

WAKSA met with representatives from the Dept of Transport in late July to discuss a range of issues including potential changes to existing regulation(s); and safety issues (for example, the wearing of PFD’s more than 400m offshore). DoT has indicated that they are going to consult with the Association before any changes, might occur.

WAKSA is waiting to hear back from DoT as to ‘what’s next’ as part of that process. The bans and restrictions mentioned in the article were not part of the conversation with DoT, and as recently as this morning, we received confirmation that bans are not being considered by the Department.

As a preliminary and proactive step (and prior to the article), WAKSA has been in contact with a number of local government authorities already and will continue to advocate on behalf of members (and for the sport) on a council by council basis and will discuss relevant issues with the appropriate authorities. Decisions affecting kiting will not be made lightly or without consultation with WAKSA members.

In the interim, remember this: kiters are being watched. Individual kiter behaviour has the ability to negatively impact on our sport and our options about where we kite – use common sense; be safe; and keep an eye on what’s happening around you/us, both on & off the water.

The WAKSA crew.
default
default
WA
1255 posts
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9 Aug 2010 2:48pm
This article, along with other sensationalist articles coming from the population of mediocre journos around today (seriously, the general standard of today's news journos is abismal) - try this...

read the first paragraph, then skip to the last paragraph to read the only objective or relevant information contained within the article.


deXtrous
deXtrous
NSW
451 posts
NSW, 451 posts
9 Aug 2010 5:20pm
How can you reach out to the people who don't use this forum?

Those people are the real trouble makers.

Someone need to buy a BB gun/rifle and snipe down wreckless kiters.
au_rick
au_rick
WA
752 posts
WA, 752 posts
9 Aug 2010 3:34pm
dunno if anyone has read the "exemption" for tow surfing, but it's hardly an amnesty.

Baiscally it's a whole bunch of rules and regulations that must be adhered to when tow - surfing adn when the "trial period" ran out earlier this year it was simply extended by another 12 months.

What I think we can expect to see is a whole raft of rules that will be applied to kiters and enfarced enforced by the transport department and / or shire rangers ?
jas73
jas73
QLD
796 posts
QLD, 796 posts
9 Aug 2010 5:47pm
The WAKSA guys/girls seem to do a great job for WA kiters. We have not seen the same sort of issues come up in Brisbane as yet but i hope our Queensland association do as good a job.
zola
zola
WA
79 posts
WA, 79 posts
9 Aug 2010 3:50pm
Not kiting/rigging/landing from the banned area at cottesloe beach (bottom of deane street) would be a start! Why does the guy on the cabrinha nomad think it’s a good idea? He's been told but he won’t listen! Also crashing his kite in front of children in the same area is also a bad look!
jas73
jas73
QLD
796 posts
QLD, 796 posts
9 Aug 2010 5:56pm
zola said...

Not kiting/rigging/landing from the banned area at cottesloe beach (bottom of deane street) would be a start! Why does the guy on the cabrinha nomad think it’s a good idea? He's been told but he won’t listen! Also crashing his kite in front of children in the same area is also a bad look!


If he refuses to do the right thing just cut his lines. That will give him the message. When his kite is on the ground that is
StinkyPete
StinkyPete
WA
241 posts
WA, 241 posts
9 Aug 2010 8:25pm
Wen ever i go kiting there is always someone doing something wrong. 30 kiters and 1 person doing something wrong is all it takes. Lucky the article didnt mention banning the sport but just restricting it to certain parts of metro beaches. Very misleading. I think having designated areas is a good idea which could also be broken down again for beginners, intermediates and advanced kiters which keeps everyone safe.
toddws
toddws
WA
469 posts
WA, 469 posts
9 Aug 2010 10:42pm
Guys
we have to self regulate, its not about getting the arse and getting aggressive, but you have to challenge kiters who come to your regular spot and don't play by the rules. If we don't do it someone else will try and do it for us.
It's all common sense, too many posts to list
don't kite between the flags
don't kite between swimmers
don't beach jump
don't abuse other beach users
Just doing these few things would prevent us being seen in a negative light, we all need to be ambassadors for our sport.
The easiest thing to do is to ignore someone else's bad behaviour, the difficult, courageous and right thing to do is challenge it!
getfunky
getfunky
WA
4485 posts
WA, 4485 posts
10 Aug 2010 12:04pm
Time to pull our collective heads in and play nice (nice and far away from swimmers/punters) to 100% avoid any chance of an incident (perceived or otherwise).

On Sunday I was on the booger with my 7 yr old in front of the Ampitheatre at Scarbs. It was a deluxe day and there were punters and swimmers (and middle-aged lard arses on boogers). I was stoked to see some kites out (and cursing that I had promised a booger sesh with the lad or I would have been out for sure) but unfortunately there was a goose amongst the flock of course.

Of the 10-20 kites out having a good time and generally staying to Brighton, about 300m south of the Ampitheatre, (where there were only a handful of crazies swimming in the icy water) one uber tool had to kite right up to and around in the middle of the ampitheatre section repeatedly!! WTF!?

Now I know it isn't easy to stay upwind in light fluky breeze like that but seriously WTF was the 12m Blue n White Kima/yellow surfboard guy thinking?? He was the only kiter who even came near that section in the hour i was in the water. If you know this bloke - watch him next time he is in the Brighton area and set him straight if he trespasses. BTW - I should add we weren't even in the break but inshore in the slop, yet uber tool had to milk every one of his prescious seconds on his self infatuation trip, by coming right into the shallows whilst barely keeping his kite in the air. [Double, no TRIPLE face palm behaviour]


I have not been in the water that close and downwind of a kite like that (when not kiting) in ages and it made me extremely uncomfortable, to the point I had to stop our activities (repeatedly) and be ready to bolt/untangle my kid and if the wind fluked, and we got a nice flogging from the lines (the kite would have fallen accross us or only just upwind on several occasions). We moved over, then agian (as did others - but some stayed right in harm's way - and uber tool seemed determined to enjoy his space.

This is exactly the sort of sh!t that will garauntee a banning from the entire area.

Everyone else managed to pull their heads in and stay upwind/away from the punters by doing the walk of shame when needed except one idiot. This idiot decided his enjoyment was far more important than abot 30-40 punters in the 100% swimming only area that anyone with a brain would adhere to.

BTW I looked around and the idiot was being watched closely (I was not the only one feeling very vulnerable, although the others probably didn't know how fickle the kite control/conditions were) by all those in the water and on the beach (the most populated area at the time) and there was no admiration for the idiot muscling into the swimming area and thrashing about in knee high slop i am sure. [}:)]





So anyway, I agree totally on the self policing and part of the 'pull our collective heads in' M.O. will have to be going out of our way to word idiots like that bloke up and get them out of the area ASAP (even if it means kiting out of posi or even landing to get in the fool's ear). It doesn't have to be a confrontation, but a firm 'this is the deal so move over here and we can all get back to kiting'.

It definately can't be assumed that all kiters view Seabreeze and/or subscribe to WAKSA so we absolutely need to sort the sh!t on the beach ourselves.

Top marks to WAKSA for already being onto this in the background. Now if we can manage to do the righty at the beach then we stand a chance of enjoying relative freedom in the area.
ADS
ADS
WA
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ADS ADS
WA, 365 posts
10 Aug 2010 12:33pm
What's wrong with kiting near the amphitheatre? Providing there are no swimmers or flags there?
getfunky
getfunky
WA
4485 posts
WA, 4485 posts
10 Aug 2010 12:48pm
ADS - nothing wrong with kiting through there if it's a blown out miserable day and cranking, with no punters out. This wasn't near, this was right IN the ampi and it was a 14kt day at best with sun shining and obvious numbers of people in the ampi section.

Admitedly there were no flags there (but there were at times 2 beach patrol cars on the sand watching - and watching the tool) at the ampi. However it was obvious it was a sunny Sunday for punters to brave the elements and there were significant numbers of punters in the water. Most of the swimmers were right where i was, on a shallow sandbank.

Suffice to say it was obvious and common sense not to go anywhere near the spot to every other kiter and they didn't come within 200m of the ampi.

We are talking right through the ampi section BTW not just coming near the ampi. By the end of the fiasco my son and I (and other punters) were 'swept' out of uber tool's way and past the northern posts of the ampi.

Annoying - also that put us near a rip I had already told my son to avoid. "Why are we over here near the rip dad?" "Oh just to avoid being shreaded or flogged by a kn selfish w@nker son" or slightly more sedate words..

At least it gave me a chance to give him the drill on how to avoid kite lines and how it's important to always try to be upwind of a kite. "Why are close to him and downwind now dad?" "Pretty much coz the selfish w@nker wants everwhere to himself."
getfunky
getfunky
WA
4485 posts
WA, 4485 posts
10 Aug 2010 12:58pm
Anyway - sorry for the personal rant - but we HAVE to change this sort of selfish/careless sh!t happening. It MUST stop or we can kiss the Scarbs (and other areas) goodbye.

dusta
dusta
WA
2940 posts
WA, 2940 posts
10 Aug 2010 1:19pm
why be sorry GF . dickheads like that and the one in the wa wavecomp video are the ones that are going to ruin it for everyone .
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
WA, 5378 posts
10 Aug 2010 1:50pm
Stupid metrosexuals, thats what you get for wearing chicks clothes.
NickT
NickT
WA
1094 posts
WA, 1094 posts
11 Aug 2010 6:37am
hey get funky, check out topic conditions for wa wave titles.
toddws
toddws
WA
469 posts
WA, 469 posts
11 Aug 2010 12:55pm
Yeah
Nick, saw that too, just misses the swimmer!
DOOH!!!!
We're not helping ourselves really are we?
bingles
bingles
WA
363 posts
WA, 363 posts
11 Aug 2010 1:01pm
Someone with half a brain should remove it
getfunky
getfunky
WA
4485 posts
WA, 4485 posts
11 Aug 2010 1:26pm
Kn hell!! Just saw the vid.

It is the same serial clown that buzzed me and other swimmers on Sunday!! [}:)]

Now that I get another look at this guy I recognise him as the idiot who repeatedly buzzed a grom at Floreat groin last summer.[}:)] Jibbing 2mtrs (max) UPWIND of the kid and spraying him in the face again and again until the kid left the water. The kid was much more in the booger/wave section and not where most sensible considerate kiters operate.

I was shocked and embarrassed at his selfish and unnecessarily dangerous actions then, on Sunday and obviously from the vid on wave conditions he just doesn't give a fig how much open water is available - he is gonna ride wherever the fk he wants to!!

THIS BLUE N WHITE KIMA TOOL WILL BE THE END OF ALL OF US. HE NEEDS TO BE SORTED AND SET STRAIGHT ASAP! [}:)]

EDIT: Who is this guy? He needs to be named and shamed, and is a definate case of lines cut if not towing the line.

Kima Tool - if your reading this (and I suspect I know who this tool is now) you need to wake up and get the fk out of your own thickly insulated head space. You need to stay in kiting areas and AWAY from other water users by at least a line length. Especially so in fluky conditions. Your selfishness and disregard for other's is disgusting.
Simon.
Simon.
WA
66 posts
WA, 66 posts
11 Aug 2010 1:41pm
Alas, if so passionate about self policing why have repeated opportunities to say g’day and politely point out the error of his ways gone begging
I guess someone else will do it.
Ranting on a forum is a much better idea, rant away.

getfunky
getfunky
WA
4485 posts
WA, 4485 posts
11 Aug 2010 1:53pm
I was waiting for this question.

I wanted to word the tool but he was in and out and elusive. My only option would have been to yell abuse, not something I wanted to do to attract any more punter attention to his actions (the clubbos were there also) and not a scene I want my son to witness.

I was also juggling my lad and working against a rip (having had to move into that section to avoid the tool).

If I had been solo I would have had some very choice words with the idiot.



BTW - might be interesting to get the Scarb clubbos take on what they saw. I imagine tools actions will be discussed at the WAKSA sit down as a prime example of what will lead to bans.


EDIT: As appears in the vid Kima Tool's M.O appears to be to buzz and intimidate those in his water until they concede and leave the area he desires for himself.

This was exactly what he did at Flozzer, exactly what he did on Sunday and same for the video.

Or possibly he is blind, deaf and very dumb.


"Didn't see the guys in the water" Pigs @rse he didn't. Wake up - the behaviour is deliberate and dangerous.
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=68850&SearchTerms=wave,conditions
See for yourself.
NJPornstar
NJPornstar
WA
790 posts
WA, 790 posts
11 Aug 2010 3:51pm
Im sure we have all made mistakes, its part of growing up.
After 10 years Ozzie would be beginning to know what he is doing. Obviously he didn't have enough power on his edge to pop a massive enough kitelooping aerialist Mutated S bending frontside 9 over his head

Its so crowded in the city areas. Must be frustrating for you guys living in it.
I suggest traffic offenders should be shot on site and immediate family sterilized.
We don't want those genes back in the city sh-t mixer.
That could be new interesting angle for Labour junk mail.
waveslave
waveslave
WA
4263 posts
WA, 4263 posts
11 Aug 2010 4:30pm








Ban this. ^^^
lol.



dave......
dave......
WA
2119 posts
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11 Aug 2010 4:51pm
That looks like toby from kiteforum.....Very graceful toes...
bjw
bjw
QLD
3689 posts
bjw bjw
QLD, 3689 posts
11 Aug 2010 7:21pm
That move would go well with Mozart and fine wine.
getfunky
getfunky
WA
4485 posts
WA, 4485 posts
11 Aug 2010 6:43pm
Kima dude - Do not try to move people on by buzzing close to and attempting to intimidate them .

Deliberate behaviour like this (and it now appears to me that your behaviour is deliberate - not just stoopid) is the worst I have seen to date and begging for the attention of those that wish to put bans in place.

Just so ya know - next time I go to scarbs ampitheatre I will have my emrgency kite knife with me.

I would hate to feel vulnerable or intimidated by your selfish and dangerous actions. It may seem an emergency situation and I think you will find a set of lines quite expensive to buy. Try floating your kite over mine and my son's head in fluky (or any) winds and you better have your credit card handy.[}:)]

Or you could just do the right thing and stick to the kiting area, as everyone else manages to do, and we can all co-exist.

Up to you Ioz.




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