Went for a paddle yesterday as my rig was out of action for the day, was not
Impressed with the down wonder crew, not gonna harp on here but I have seen you kiters around heaps and I'll see you again, nearly running me over to get onto a small close out is not on. Not impressed

not to mention burning through the fishos at the drain whilst 2m from shore... if you haven't seen a kite/kite surfer/fishing line hook up before, and the ensuing rage from a fisherman if you are not very good at apologies, maybe just take the advice on these forums and give them a casts distance leeway as you go past. accidents happen, but it ain't that hard to avoid em. Each fisho you give respect to is a win as they actually enjoy the spectacle going past - any tangle is another voice at council against the ol'DWer. i know the bank there is one of the funner parts of the stretch, but seriously, ever been fishing? what would you think if a boat came through 10m in front of your cast repeatedly? think about it maybe, just for a second?

or just wait for 25kn when the fisho's leave the beach and then smash it...

There is no "crew" anymore. There was 4-5 years ago when there was about 10-20 of us who just were trying to get more waves.

Now every man and his dog are doing, for reasons that do not seem apparent. (so many twin tips, so many people not really getting waves)

I suspect there are something like 100-200 people who do it regularly now.

Don't need many tools in that bunch to cause mayhem, distress, anger, as well as danger to all.

I am constantly amazed that kiters you dont know want to pass so close to you. I suppose kiting attitudes are aligned with driving attitudes in Perth (which are the worst in the world I have encountered in the 20 or so countries I have driven in)

I suppose I should be glad I had it when it was good (ie no one within in 500m from you except a mate).

Things have changed forever and for the worse. C'est la vie.

wal269 said...

Now every man and his dog are doing, for reasons that do not seem apparent. (so many twin tips, so many people not really getting waves)

Things have changed forever and for the worse. C'est la vie.

Whats twin tips got to do with this? I sometimes take the twin tip out from time to time. You can still pump up and load off killer ramps, much more fun than strapped in 1 foot slop.

UnderOath..It's pretty simple really, you can get "ramps" anywhere including out the back at Pinnaroo, not to mention that you do not need to do a downwinder to get them.

One of the key things you dont want when you are trying to get waves is someone trying to boost in front or behind you. It is one of the prime reasons we started doing them because we wanted to get out of the way of the 'boosters' at Brighton.

This is because tacking angles, landings and down the line are at complete opposites to each other and in fact create danger when mixed together.

The fact that you don't realise this is a perfect example of what I am talking about and what this thread is about. I hope this clarifies.

lets have a australia dw

Gstar said...

Just to clarify, as yesterday I was waved in by another kiter and given a "headsup" with the, 'wrong' advice.

Twin tip, wake, mutant, skim! It's all the same to me. Just my local spot.

Please explain?

Haha good old sea breeze , can take any topic and convert it to twinny vs directional, straps vs strapless ect ect ..
Pisser

wal269 said...

. (so many twin tips, so many people not really getting waves)

Comments like this constantly crack me up, 90 percent of the clowns out there are doing exactly the same thing as twin tip riders, getting dragged along the wave by their kite, yet are delusional enough to think they are 'surfing' because they are on a surfboard, and therefore have more right to be there. What a crock!

Even if people aren't catching waves, why shouldn't they be out there! Do you want everyone not on a surfboard to go to pinnaroo? Thats just stupid.

For the record, i ride a twinnie and strapless surfboard, depending on conditions/mood.

...Wow... so much emotions over nothing... some still like to use this forum as emotional toilet....

Facts are
If the 2-300 downwinders start lawnmoving in one 200m segment, perhaps in Brighton, that will be the disaster... at least with DW the number of kiters at all time is distributed...

You can boost anywhere, not only on a breaking wave... I do it all the time, it's just as much fun a bit further out... unless you want to impress someone on the beach, of course.

If you just have fun in and out on a twinnie or whatever, you can turn back out before the break leaving it to those wanting to ride it (twinnie or surfboard who cares..?, what matters is what you use it for...)

I noticed quite a few downwinder crews had problem riding upwind... they are more of a nuisance than fishos....

Andrash said...

...Wow... so much emotions over nothing... some still like to use this forum as emotional toilet....

Facts are
If the 2-300 downwinders start lawnmoving in one 200m segment, perhaps in Brighton, that will be the disaster... at least with DW the number of kiters at all time is distributed...

2-300 people doing downwinders a weekend ?

really ?

Talk about emotions over nothing . I bet if i sat at a beach between swanbourne and brighton and counted the amount of downwinders it would be nowhere near 2-300

kiting is fun
boosting is fun
directionals are fun
smashing waves boosting on mutant twinnie directionals is fun fun fun

everybody's having fun fun fun

but the sharks down windy harbour are big and hungry and i'm the only kiter on my downwinder. So how about some of you guys whinging about Perth crowds come join me?

newo said...

Riding upwind is the most fun i've ever had. I only ride downwind so I get to ride upwind.

Up winder runs are great I thought I was the only one. Did it at lano last week just to see how far I could go!

By "please explain", I mean what was the wrong advice?

ADS said...

Gstar said...

Just to clarify, as yesterday I was waved in by another kiter and given a "headsup" with the, 'wrong' advice.

Twin tip, wake, mutant, skim! It's all the same to me. Just my local spot.

Please explain?

Yo Ben, sorry you were buzzed by a few tools. Know exactly how you feel and if you are in that posi with your kids it puts a very sharp focus on how insular and deluded some kiters are..

And..

Whilst we are on the SB vs TT thing..

I see plenty of very unskilled spuds attempting to ride strapless in the metro mush with no where near the skillz to pull it off..

Why? I guess they believe too jmuch forum know-it-all hype. [}:)]

Having the same dude flailing around trying to collect his board again..and again..and again staying constantly in the breaking/mushing section is pretty painful.

We all gotta learn sometimes but stay strapped until you have some rudimentary skillz and aren't a complete pain in the freckle for ALL other kiters maybe?

Just my 2c tho.

getfunky said...

Yo Ben, sorry you were buzzed by a few tools. Know exactly how you feel and if you are in that posi with your kids it puts a very sharp focus on how insular and deluded some kiters are..

And..

Whilst we are on the SB vs TT thing..

I see plenty of very unskilled spuds attempting to ride strapless in the metro mush with no where near the skillz to pull it off..

ahem, monkey see monkey want to do.....poorly