the end result of the system failure is seen on the TV, London Burning, sounds like a song from the Clash, which it probably is, the breakdown of society to the lowest level, growing up you learnt to respect your elders, now you have to respect the da hoods cause you may not want to die at that time, its that bad, TV is filled with either murder shows dissecting victims or reality shows full of winner takes all together market analysts saying the profit is not nearly enough, **** the world is f..ked ,blah blah effyn blah

choco said...

get the army in there and give those ferals a hiding that they'll never forget and lets see if they do it again

Any state that turns its army against its own citizens deserves to fail.

Mobydisc said...

choco said...

get the army in there and give those ferals a hiding that they'll never forget and lets see if they do it again

Any state that turns its army against its own citizens deserves to fail.

Lets put it another way...
You and all your mates on your side of the island surf, and windsurf, and stuff, and you have lots of great stuff in your garages. The blokes from the other side of the island are into hotrod cars and guns, and they have decided that they are going to come and loot all the garages on your side of the island. So you ring the cops... the cops say they can't help because their guns and cars and numbers aren't good enough, compared to the masses of hot rod dudes with loads of guns... The cops tell you, you should ring the army, they have tanks, masses of fire power, tear gas, and lots of other stuff that might help your situation.....

I'm not saying turning the army on the citizens is right.... but often the citizens running a muck and out of control in mob format isn't right either.... two wrongs make a right!

20 percent unemployment Government like the us has failed its people and spent what its should of saved today and spent on another generation .. Things are going to get worse..

Mabe multiculturalism isnt working?

choco said...

get the army in there and give those ferals a hiding that they'll never forget and lets see if they do it again

After watching the police under manned on the news tonight I said the same bring in the forces,most left their **** hole counties to live a better life,now they are rooting another county,sorry have no time for this nob bring in the troops,its BS.Hows the business owners watching their hard work getting smashed and not a dam thing they can do, insurance hmm what would that come under,BS

rant over fm

62mac said...

choco said...

get the army in there and give those ferals a hiding that they'll never forget and lets see if they do it again

After watching the police under manned on the news tonight I said the same bring in the forces,most left their **** hole counties to live a better life,now they are rooting another county,sorry have no time for this nob bring in the troops,its BS.Hows the business owners watching their hard work getting smashed and not a dam thing they can do, insurance hmm what would that come under,BS

rant over fm

Hmmm. They live in a country that has a ROYAL FAMILY FFS. I'd be a bit pissed off too. London is a miserable ****ehole at the best of times. Biggest shame is that the idiots haven't directed their anger on Buckingham Palace or one of the other royal abodes in London, and instead have chosen to **** in their own nests, as these type of idiots do.

God Save The Queen.

Hamsta, I think your condoneing of the riots is out of order

Actually I think your a Tossa

Based soley on the comments you made

poor relative said...
The pommes will never send the army in its a sure fire way of them admitting they have lost control.

No and neither do we. But it does not mean you have lost control, it means you are serious about keeping it.

You only ever see extended civil disorder in the so-called civilised countries.
In 90% of the world the rioters are told to fk off, and when they don't they are teargassed and hit with rubber bullets, and they then leave very quickly.

Whereas Britain and Australia have teenagers running around smashing sh!t at parties on Sat night and out of 200 in the street, 1 gets arrested.

We have a lot to learn, we are soft and we get what we deserve. (By "we" I mean the bvllsh!t namby pamby "rights for offenders" societies we have in the UK and Oz.)

That UK riot should never have gone past 6hrs, they should all be in hospital or lying in park overcome by teargas and wishing they behaved.

Mark _australia said...

poor relative said...
The pommes will never send the army in its a sure fire way of them admitting they have lost control.

No and neither do we. But it does not mean you have lost control, it means you are serious about keeping it.

You only ever see extended civil disorder in the so-called civilised countries.
In 90% of the world the rioters are told to fk off, and when they don't they are teargassed and hit with rubber bullets, and they then leave very quickly.

Whereas Britain and Australia have teenagers running around smashing sh!t at parties on Sat night and out of 200 in the street, 1 gets arrested.

We have a lot to learn, we are soft and we get what we deserve. (By "we" I mean the bvllsh!t namby pamby "rights for offenders" societies we have in the UK and Oz.)

That UK riot should never have gone past 6hrs, they should all be in hospital or lying in park overcome by teargas and wishing they behaved.

1 minute past the 6th hour and those at the top are now attempting to justify the strategy employed at the time. Because sure as hell those numbats who engineered the society to its current standing, they will be looking to hang some pore bastard to protect their incompetent skins. It will be all blame, blame, blame, muddy the waters, and the good guys at the front line will get it in the neck, sure as the sun coming up tomorrow.
If it was good enough to let loose with rubber bullets and all other forms in Ireland, what the hell's wrong with bringing this lot under control using the same measures.

Mobydisc said...

choco said...

get the army in there and give those ferals a hiding that they'll never forget and lets see if they do it again

Any state that turns its army against its own citizens deserves to fail.

Stinkin hippy

barn said...

People who Riot are after a fight.. If I was Dear Leader, I would send the fire trucks to the sewage works and then drive around hosing poo on the idiots..

Nobody riots when they are covered in poo, they go home and take a shower..

That gives you time to ask yourself how many unemployed, bored, angry young men can live in a city..

Seabreeze history here, I AGREE with Barn on this one, thats a great idea

doggie said...

Seabreeze history here, I AGREE with Barn on this one, thats a great idea

Seabreeze history here, I agree with Mark and others.

I think any country that doesn't protect its citizens deserves to fail. If that means bringing in the army then so be it. This isn't a protest fighting some kind of repression - it's willful lawlessness for the fun of it. People have died for no good reason.

charge up the tazers

choco said...

Mobydisc said...

The trouble with sending in the army to do police work is soldiers are trained to use lethal force on their enemy which is not policing. From the last report I've heard, one person has been killed in these riots. If lethal force was used against rioters, who can not say if lethal force would be returned, escalating the violence.


Its surprising so many believe a nation's armed forces, which are supposibly paid for by the taxpayers to protect the country against external threats should be used against a country's own citizens if those citizens riot.


The chief of the London Metro police said they are boosting the number of on duty police in from six thousand to sixteen thousand. This sounds like a reasonable response. Get the police out on the streets to restore law and order. Once law and order is returned, arrest the rioters and find out why these riots happened.

Bit late getting more police on the ground, should have done it from day one and nipped the rioting in the bud, the army should be used to round up these ferals into one area where the police can then get hold of them.
If it was your business, home, car or family being personally attacked I'm sure you would change your tune.

It's a difficult dilema. I'm sure the UK armed forces have troops who have been trained to handle public disturbances and riots etc, as they had soldiers stationed in Northern Ireland for a long time which responded to similar sorts of acts.

I guess if you are PM or in charge, you need to look at the bigger picture. For example the UK are currently engaged in an operation against the Libyan Government. What is one of the main reasons? Because the Libyan army is firing upon it's own country's civilians. It would look pretty hypocritical if the British Government then goes and does the same thing on it's own civilians.

I have been apauled to watch these thugs carry on the way they have, with total disregard for the law. It's a pretty frightening scenario, rally enough thugs using modern technology to run riot and almost no police force is going to be large enough to handle it.

What? Hooters are scum? Never!

(one for doggie...)