What is this Screw Called?

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Shifu
Shifu
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15 Aug 2016 1:33pm
These are screwed into the window frames of my house holding on the burglar bars. I want to take them off to clean and paint and then reinstall.

I think this is a TP3 or "trilobe" headed screw, But I'm not getting much luck on web searches finding the appropriate bit for them. Is there another name for them in common use that might help me find the right bit?







Pugwash
Pugwash
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15 Aug 2016 11:35am
Can buy them off the shelf at bunnies... Look for a Stanley kit and get all kinds of cool bits for undoing other stuff...
Tonz
Tonz
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524 posts
15 Aug 2016 1:20pm
What is this Screw Called?

Jack
Shifu
Shifu
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1997 posts
QLD, 1997 posts
15 Aug 2016 7:30pm
Well, Bunnings only had a tiny little one inside a set of thirty different types. They said I'd have to contact the company that installed the bars.

I think I'll get an old bit and grind the shape into the end.
crakas
crakas
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15 Aug 2016 7:35pm
I got some of those driver bits of eBay. Search for Tri wing as well.
SandS
SandS
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15 Aug 2016 8:57pm
Cut straight slot and use a standard screwdriver ............. no one will even know what that is these days !!!
crustysailor
crustysailor
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16 Aug 2016 10:07am
Bunnings didn't know what a pop rivet was...
mitchbat
mitchbat
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16 Aug 2016 8:19am
I'd use an easy out to remove it then match the thread with some other form of tamper proof bolt.
myusernam
myusernam
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16 Aug 2016 10:46am
mitchbat said..
I'd use an easy out to remove it then match the thread with some other form of tamper proof bolt.


+1
Pugwash
Pugwash
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16 Aug 2016 10:13am
crustysailor said..
Bunnings didn't know what a pop rivet was...


Bunnies don't know a lot of stuff... that is why they are bunnies...

Still, this is an off the shelf product, which you can use with your impact driver.

www.bunnings.com.au/stanley-31-piece-bit-set_p6060003

I take it the bottom right is the one that is too small... presumably you need the 5 mm, not the 3.5 mm...

Shifu
Shifu
QLD
1997 posts
QLD, 1997 posts
16 Aug 2016 4:00pm
^^^ yep that's the one I saw. Needs a bigger one. I can't find one of these on ebay yet either. There are several dozen of these to take out if I am going to do the window frames properly and re-install them again afterwards so I need a proper bit, preferably a long one...
NewScotty
NewScotty
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16 Aug 2016 6:35pm
Tools required.
1. Angle grinder with thin blade.
2. Wide slot head screwdriver (head needs to be much wider then the trilobe head).

Neatly grind in a slot across the head of the screw.
Slowly loosen screw head.
Tip: you want the flat head to neatly fit into the slot you grind out. You only get 1 crack at getting it right.
sn
sn
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sn sn
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16 Aug 2016 6:48pm
NewScotty said..
Tools required.
1. Angle grinder with thin blade.

Neatly grind in a slot across the head of the screw.


"I need a proper bit, preferably a long one..."

sounds like access is tight - so an angle grinder might not fit in the space.



stephen
DanozDirect
DanozDirect
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16 Aug 2016 9:58pm
One word when I look at those types of screws.... McDonalds
crakas
crakas
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17 Aug 2016 7:17am
Where are you in QLD Shifu? Call in and you can borrow one...but I was only able to get short ones.
NewScotty
NewScotty
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17 Aug 2016 7:11am
crakas said...
Where are you in QLD Shifu? Call in and you can borrow one...but I was only able to get short ones.


Most security bits are short.
Just need an extension for about 10 bucks
Beaglebuddy
Beaglebuddy
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17 Aug 2016 8:01am
Trying to cut a slot for a standard screwdriver may not work, looks like stainless steel, a very soft metal.
nebbian
nebbian
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17 Aug 2016 9:18am
If it was me I'd get a trilobe, torx or hex bit, and grind it until it fit properly. Then use extensions to be able to get in there with a drill on the other end.

I've done this before for other types of security screws.

For the few screws that you'll massacre I'd get in there with a dremel and cut a flat slot, then use a slotted screwdriver.
FormulaNova
FormulaNova
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18 Aug 2016 11:18am
If it was me, I would just get a MIG and plug weld something in there.... there would be splatter everywhere and damaged glass, but at least you would get that screw out.

Or I would grind up something from a drill bit, which I think someone else already mentioned.

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