Yeah sad day indeed. Even worse is all the people acting sympathetically on facebook, pretending they knew how influential he was. His "I had a dream" speech will go down famously in history. RIP

Haydn24 said..
Yeah sad day indeed. Even worse is all the people acting sympathetically on facebook, pretending they knew how influential he was.

Huh?


But YES RIP indeed, a very strong man sadly missed

i did history at school to yr 12 but was never interested, so I know only the basics. I do however find it odd (and this may just be my ignorance) that he is heralded as such a ledgend and even had the nobel peace prize, and that Obama gave a long speech saying how it would be hard to imagine the world without him etc. I would have thought you would only get accolades like that if your past was unblemished.If martin luther king or roza sparks (or whatever her name was) was involved in bombings/ domestic terror in their country they'd still be in jail. Do we not only accept but celebrate violence and bombings against unjust governments? Pretty wierd coming from the US and their record with institutionalised racism and as victims of terrorism...

myusernam said..

Mark _australia said..

Haydn24 said..
Yeah sad day indeed. Even worse is all the people acting sympathetically on facebook, pretending they knew how influential he was.

Huh?


But YES RIP indeed, a very strong man sadly missed

sounds like some dizzy woman got mandela confused with martin luther king and really embarrased herself on facebook! can someone post the link?

she coud just say they all look the same!

Paris Hilton...........

Mark _australia said..

^^ thankyou

fark nose how I got a red thumb for asking

You know that evrytime you talk about red thumbs, you get more.......

Just sayin

Haydn24 said..

jbshack said..



I think what is embarrassing is having Paris Hilton on your FB page



My 12 year old asked if that was his speech, my 9 year old said he really loved his movies (Morgan Freeman)



I liked this quote..Yes i stole it:

"I learned that courage was not the absence of fear, but the triumph over it. The brave man is not he who does not feel afraid, but he who conquers that fear." - Nelson Mandela

That screenshot is from Twitter and is not mine

I freely admit I don't care she is insular, dumb and up herself.

japie said..

Nelson Mandela was a terrorist. That's why he was gaoled.

Funny thing, how we remember him, as the great statesman instrumental in freeing the blacks from apartheid.

Whereas Yassar Arafat, who fought his whole life for the liberation of the Palestinian people, well we remember him somewhat differently.

Guess the Palestinians fall into a different category.

A tad inappropriate.

Not sure how you can compare Palestine and Sth Africa.

It was remembered `somewhat differently`, because it was - and it had a lot to do with this one person and his actions.

"Nelson Mandela was the head of UmKhonto we Sizwe, (MK), the terrorist wing of the ANC and South African Communist Party. At his trial, he had pleaded guilty to 156 acts of public violence including mobilising terrorist bombing campaigns, which planted bombs in public places, including the Johannesburg railway station. Many innocent people, including women and children, were killed by Nelson Mandela’s MK terrorists."

is is planting a bomb in a railway station an act of terrorism?

i do not think you have to be an Afrikaner to answer yes to that.

Freedom Fighter or Terrorist simply comes down to whether you are sympathetic to their cause or not.

The Afrikaners didn't have so many "friends" hence the different outcomes of Arafat and Mandela.

For me, Nelson Mandela is the only person in public life who I've thought was inspirational. An aura, a natural presence. Very few have that.

Today's the first day I've ever felt sad over the death of someone I never knew personally.

RIP Sir.

It is sad hearing it early this morning..

But now have had to resort to non advertising stations
and personal music... as i don't need to hear it every 5 minutes...
after a couple of hours listening to the radio this morning..I felt bombarded

The Afrikaners should thank god every day that it was Mandela that came to power and not one of the other ANC leaders.

Look what Mugabe did to the Rhodesians and FRELIMO with the leftover Portuguese in Mozambique.....

It could have been a bloodbath....

azymuth said..

As a South African I'm especially worried that the country will suffer hugely without his guiding spirit.

JJ, his spirit will influence long after he has gone.

So is bin laden justified with the twin towers? It's a long bow but ghandi never blew anyone up to get his political message across. When one of my kids beats on the other, they never get away with violence as the retaliation. Tell me how one group of humans justifying violence on another is different. You have to remember the his guy is practically sanctisised. He got offered a full pardon for renouncing violence (against his oppressors) but told them to get farked.(admirable but hardly the work of a victim) the state if SA now should somewhat vindicate the actions of apartheid... Perhaps the blacks weren't ready for indipe ndace or the vote. Or maybe they were ..but terrorism us bad and if he did half of what was alledged....