If people from troubled country should / could agree to give up their freedom for the sake of safety ?
If each individual could carry ID collar that could be accessed remotely by government then where about of every single person will be known.
Those with dangerous intention could be temporary incapacitated.
As horrible as it sounds it could be alternative to be shot, gassed, bombed, starved to death, lost in wilderness in countries like Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Syria, Egypt, New Zealand etc
If "gadget" could be designed by Apple as next generation iColl-ar it may looks and sounds even quite cute.
and incorporate also mobile phone, payment card, music player and radio , GPS and rescue beacon.

GypsyDrifter said..

Ok!.... well this thread needs to be moved

It needs to be more than moved. It needs to be stripped, shaved, tarred, beaten, stuffed in a wet heshan bag, nailed to a frizbee and thrown into the sun...

TheWolf said..

GypsyDrifter said..

Ok!.... well this thread needs to be moved

It needs to be more than moved. It needs to be stripped, shaved, tarred, beaten, stuffed in a wet heshan bag, nailed to a frizbee and thrown into the sun...

Nar, just put a collar on it

We already have something like this. It's called a smart phone. People can't leave home without it.

Or people having red thumbs on sea breeze forum...

jusavina said..

Or people having red thumbs on sea breeze forum...

Great idea ! Each Red Thumb will send short electric reminder to the registered SB-er / poster.

I guess at the moderate strength 3 in the scale 0 to 5.

Luxury iCollars version on another hand could send electric signal to end user endorphin producing spheres as a reward for good behavior. For example every Green Thumb could activate your blue tooth synchronized micro vibrator hidden in your preferred location.

NotWal said..

I don't think you are going to find too many "elites" volunteering for that.

You could be surprised with response to the experiment made already on students , where volunteers where offered free entry and drinks in the club in exchange for implanting micro chip under the skin.
Obviously the legitimate reason for implant was ultimate care for students health since micro chipping allowed precise counting and limitation of the served drinks and then consequent alcohol consumption.

Mark _australia said..

^^^ yup and there will be a "legitimate" reason to do the whole world at some point.

right, the matter is not even IF but WHEN the system will be introduced...

till then we are FREE TO SPECULATE how it may looks and works

Macroscien said..

If people from troubled country should / could agree to give up their freedom for the sake of safety ?
If each individual could carry ID collar that could be accessed remotely by government then where about of every single person will be known.
Those with dangerous intention could be temporary incapacitated.
As horrible as it sounds it could be alternative to be shot, gassed, bombed, starved to death, lost in wilderness in countries like Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Syria, Egypt, New Zealand etc
If "gadget" could be designed by Apple as next generation iColl-ar it may looks and sounds even quite cute.
and incorporate also mobile phone, payment card, music player and radio , GPS and rescue beacon.

Originality please...

FlySurfer said..


Originality please...

contrary to the example the collar may works as life saving device - not the life taking.

For example:
* each special operation seal member have iCollar - than automatic drone could kill everybody on the battlefield without identification/protective collar
* iCollar may supply instant antidote to the owner in the case of chemical attack (Sarin)
* in the destabilized country all good guys have iCollars - bad / insurgence don't have any ... you know the rest, how easy to eliminate....

Macroscien said..

FlySurfer said..


Originality please...

contrary to the example the collar may works as life saving device - not the life taking.

For example:
* each special operation seal member have iCollar - than automatic drone could kill everybody on the battlefield without identification/protective collar
* iCollar may supply instant antidote to the owner in the case of chemical attack (Sarin)
* in the destabilized country all good guys have iCollars - bad / insurgence don't have any ... you know the rest, how easy to eliminate....

you sound like a jerk

or an in an insurgent

maybe both

please remove yourself from this planet

Actually my initial idea was emergency wrist device for swimmers at our danger surf beaches.
How it works.
Our surf beach could be quite dangerous place, not only for overseas tourists.
Swimmer/ surfer in difficulty could have problem with signaling in time to the Life Savers that need help or even rescue.
Device in the from of wrist watch, or belt with just easy to access panic button could send RF signal to the beach control tower/ life guards.
Local triangulation ( or GPS) could allow for instant localisation .
Additionally device could emit high frequency sound.

Remotely activated alarm also speed up action and avoid confusion specifically at busy place like Bondi Beach.

Such device could/should be hired/rented at very low cost from every Life Saver Guard.

Macroscien said..

Actually my initial idea was emergency wrist device for swimmers at our danger surf beaches.
How it works.
Our surf beach could be quite dangerous place, not only for overseas tourists.
Swimmer/ surfer in difficulty could have problem with signaling in time to the Life Savers that need help or even rescue.
Device in the from of wrist watch, or belt with just easy to access panic button could send RF signal to the beach control tower/ life guards.
Local triangulation ( or GPS) could allow for instant localisation .
Additionally device could emit high frequency sound.

Remotely activated alarm also speed up action and avoid confusion specifically at busy place like Bondi Beach.

Such device could/should be hired/rented at very low cost from every Life Saver Guard.

No it wasn't & you've already discussed military use...which it would end up being.

By the way - who has the right to judge the 'good guys' & 'bad guys' when it comes to warfare? If it were based on (our) media, it would be everyone else - if it were based on actual killings & government attacks it would probably be who you/we get told are the "good guys".

Sailhack said..

Macroscien said..

Actually my initial idea was emergency wrist device for swimmers at our danger surf beaches.
How it works.
Our surf beach could be quite dangerous place, not only for overseas tourists.
Swimmer/ surfer in difficulty could have problem with signaling in time to the Life Savers that need help or even rescue.
Device in the from of wrist watch, or belt with just easy to access panic button could send RF signal to the beach control tower/ life guards.
Local triangulation ( or GPS) could allow for instant localisation .
Additionally device could emit high frequency sound.

Remotely activated alarm also speed up action and avoid confusion specifically at busy place like Bondi Beach.

Such device could/should be hired/rented at very low cost from every Life Saver Guard.

No it wasn't & you've already discussed military use...which it would end up being.
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By the way - who has the right to judge the 'good guys' & 'bad guys' when it comes to warfare? If it were based on (our) media, it would be everyone else - if it were based on actual killings & government attacks it would probably be who you/we get told are the "good guys".

+1

I am just stating the fact in cold scientific manner .
Everything is going in this direction anyway, if you wish or not.
Now is everything in our hands to take extraordinary care who we put at state steering wheel and what powers we give to him/her.
First example is made already when decision to send missile was made regardless of the US congress to support it or not.
We are very lucky to have one of the smartest US president at the helm this time but that could not be assured in the future every time.
My postulate :
Give people complete freedom to information but at this same time iron cladded civil rights and protection.

Suppose that mentioned iCollar has the power for instant voting/ polling and when at the time substantial majority - say 70% voters decide to change their president, decision is made. We could avoid Egipt, Syria, NK where one person stay at power against majority mandate.

What about Swimmers Life Saver iBeacon ? Worth to try ?

Macro dude, you've got a bad batch of weed this time, take it back to your dealer and get a refund. It's clearly been laced with hallucinogens!