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petermac33
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23 Nov 2012 2:00am
Climate change caused by driving our cars,turning on the computer etc,seemingly is causing the ocean to rise

A one metre rise in the ocean by the end of the century.....a fair few litres of water needed for that to happen!

Now called Climate change and not Global Warming,since evidence if anything the earth is getting colder.

Are there anyone that actually believes that large parts of Freo will soon be under water?

Another example of lies from the mass media.


http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/breaking/15440692/climate-puts-freo-in-deep-end/
FlySurfer
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23 Nov 2012 9:37am
I'm already underwater.
laurie
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23 Nov 2012 9:35am
petermac33 said...

Climate change caused by driving our cars,turning on the computer etc,seemingly is causing the ocean to rise



My understanding is that the climate always changes.

Driving cars etc, is accellerating it, but regardless, the climate will change. That's what the climate does.

Definition: Climate (from Ancient Greek klima, meaning inclination) is commonly defined as the weather averaged over a long period.[3] The standard averaging period is 30 years

If it stayed the same, we wouldn't need the word

By burning coal & oil we're releasing trillions of tonnes of CO2 into the atmosphere. We're changing the chemical composition of the atmosphere on a global scale.

If somebody farts in the kitchen, you know it will have an effect...

What will be the effect of our major CO2 fart?
southace
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23 Nov 2012 10:33am
Did it not happen years ago before cars and humans where invented? I think tassie was joined to Australia once upon a time? Maybe dinosor farts caused this!
doggie
doggie
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23 Nov 2012 9:13am
Farts are funny

Sharts are not
Pugwash
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23 Nov 2012 9:36am
petermac33 said...
A one metre rise in the ocean by the end of the century.....a fair few litres of water needed for that to happen!


What if, just say, the water expanded as it warms

What if, just say, the entire earth expanded? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expanding_Earth

What if Prof Carey was right? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Warren_Carey

My biggest fear - the rise of the giant insects from the Carboniferous: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meganeura

Eeewwwww
pweedas
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4642 posts
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23 Nov 2012 11:24am
Rising sea levels eh?
I was thinking about this over the last few weeks because we seem to have been having a lot of extra low tides.
I've surfed over the same reef for over 50 years.
50 years ago at low tide you would lose skin. The water sucks out to about 6 inches deep.
For the last few weeks at low tide, the water is still about 6 inches deep. I'm still losing skin.
You would really think that even if the sea levels were going up only 1 inch every 10 years then by now, low tide would be the original 6 inches plus another 5 to give me 11 inches deep at low tide. I don't lose skin at 11 inches deep so the difference is noticeable.
I came to the conclusion that the Tuvaluvians are stealing all our extra water to submerge their island so they can claim to be climate refugees and demand entry to Australia.
A message to all you Tuvaluvians,.. WE WANT OUR WATER BACK!

So far for the last 50 years I'm finding this claim of dangerously rising sea levels a long way short of convincing.
Unless the rate of rising drastically increases over its present rates, it's hard to see a 1 metre rise over the next 90 years as being realistic.
pooman
pooman
WA
293 posts
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23 Nov 2012 1:13pm
petermac33 said...

Climate change caused by driving our cars,turning on the computer etc,seemingly is causing the ocean to rise

A one metre rise in the ocean by the end of the century.....a fair few litres of water needed for that to happen!

Now called Climate change and not Global Warming,since evidence if anything the earth is getting colder.

Are there anyone that actually believes that large parts of Freo will soon be under water?

Another example of lies from the mass media.


http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/breaking/15440692/climate-puts-freo-in-deep-end/


Not that I believe it will but it is interesting to note the historical Tidal Line that is paved along the Esplanade in Freo...a good 1km away from the current water line?

So I guess if it was there before maybe it could come back?
doggie
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WA
15849 posts
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23 Nov 2012 1:29pm
pweedas said...
Rising sea levels eh?
I was thinking about this over the last few weeks because we seem to have been having a lot of extra low tides.
I've surfed over the same reef for over 50 years.
50 years ago at low tide you would lose skin. The water sucks out to about 6 inches deep.
For the last few weeks at low tide, the water is still about 6 inches deep. I'm still losing skin.
You would really think that even if the sea levels were going up only 1 inch every 10 years then by now, low tide would be the original 6 inches plus another 5 to give me 11 inches deep at low tide. I don't lose skin at 11 inches deep so the difference is noticeable.
I came to the conclusion that the Tuvaluvians are stealing all our extra water to submerge their island so they can claim to be climate refugees and demand entry to Australia.
A message to all you Tuvaluvians,.. WE WANT OUR WATER BACK!

So far for the last 50 years I'm finding this claim of dangerously rising sea levels a long way short of convincing.
Unless the rate of rising drastically increases over its present rates, it's hard to see a 1 metre rise over the next 90 years as being realistic.


That must make you, like 100yo
Pugwash
Pugwash
WA
7733 posts
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23 Nov 2012 1:52pm
Mmmmm hmmmmm...

Isostasy and eustasy: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isostasy
Squid Lips
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WA
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23 Nov 2012 2:02pm


sausage
sausage
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23 Nov 2012 4:20pm
Will that be 9.00pm AESDT or perth time tonight?
grumplestiltskin
grumplestiltskin
WA
2331 posts
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23 Nov 2012 2:28pm
Maybe the people in Roleystone can start advertising their properties "popular beachside land".

Just a thought
Davage
Davage
VIC
182 posts
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23 Nov 2012 5:44pm
When dinosours roamed the earth they tell us it was hot and humid. They also tell us that the dinos died because of an ice age.

So its been hot then its been cold and now its hot again. All this has happened long before the human species made any impact and is going to continue to happen long after we are gone.
Pugwash
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WA
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23 Nov 2012 2:44pm
BTW, squidy, I love that pie... Anything that can be expressed as a pie is good in my books
NotWal
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23 Nov 2012 4:47pm
pweedas said...
Rising sea levels eh?
I was thinking about this over the last few weeks because we seem to have been having a lot of extra low tides.
...

Yep, the low tides are due to global warming too. More heat makes more water vapor and that makes deeper atmosphere and that retards the moon in it's orbit so it moves a bit closer and that makes the tides both higher and lower. It will keep doing that until it gets so close that it blasts a wake through the atmosphere and we can ride the lunar winds. Shortly after that nothing much will matter any more.

That's my theory and I like it.

Ian K
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WA
4169 posts
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23 Nov 2012 3:53pm
NotWal said...
pweedas said...
Rising sea levels eh?
I was thinking about this over the last few weeks because we seem to have been having a lot of extra low tides.
...

Yep, the low tides are due to global warming too. More heat makes more water vapor and that makes deeper atmosphere and that retards the moon in it's orbit so it moves a bit closer and that makes the tides both higher and lower. It will keep doing that until it gets so close that it blasts a wake through the atmosphere and we can ride the lunar winds. Shortly after that nothing much will matter any more.

That's my theory and I like it.






The moon is actually doing the opposite, slowly getting into a higher orbit. The moon, with its gravity, drags a tide on the earth towards itself. That would be OK and not have an effect on the moon's orbit, but the earth, takes this tidal bulge and moves it ahead of where the moon is. The once a day rotation of the earth being faster than the once a month orbit of the moon (moon orbit and earth rotation are in the same direction). So the earth is effectively slingshotting the moon into a higher orbit using the gravity of the tidal bulge.

It's the viscous friction of the ocean on the solid earth that allows the rotating earth to drag the tidal bulge ahead of where the moon wants it to be. The other consequence of this friction is that the earth is losing rotational speed. The days are getting longer.
nebbian
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WA
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23 Nov 2012 4:04pm
Ian K said...

The moon is actually doing the opposite, slowly getting into a higher orbit. The moon, with its gravity, drags a tide on the earth towards itself. That would be OK and not have an effect on the moon's orbit, but the earth, takes this tidal bulge and moves it ahead of where the moon is. The once a day rotation of the earth being faster than the once a month orbit of the moon (moon orbit and earth rotation are in the same direction). So the earth is effectively slingshotting the moon into a higher orbit using the gravity of the tidal bulge.

It's the viscous friction of the ocean on the solid earth that allows the rotating earth to drag the tidal bulge ahead of where the moon wants it to be. The other consequence of this friction is that the earth is losing rotational speed. The days are getting longer.


Isn't the moon rotating in the opposite direction to the earth? I thought that was why the moon rises 1 hr later each day.

[Edit: no, I'm stupid. Ian is right.]
BulldogPup
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6657 posts
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23 Nov 2012 4:56pm
petermac33 said...

Climate change caused by driving our cars,turning on the computer etc,seemingly is causing the ocean to rise

A one metre rise in the ocean by the end of the century.....a fair few litres of water needed for that to happen!

Now called Climate change and not Global Warming,since evidence if anything the earth is getting colder.

Are there anyone that actually believes that large parts of Freo will soon be under water?

Another example of lies from the mass media.


http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/breaking/15440692/climate-puts-freo-in-deep-end/


No I don't Pete .... there are so many tunnels under Freo & they all fill daily with the tides , the whole coastline would fill before Freo went mate
pweedas
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WA
4642 posts
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23 Nov 2012 5:44pm
doggie said...
pweedas said...
Rising sea levels eh?
I was thinking about this over the last few weeks because we seem to have been having a lot of extra low tides.
I've surfed over the same reef for over 50 years.
50 years ago at low tide you would lose skin. The water sucks out to about 6 inches deep.
For the last few weeks at low tide, the water is still about 6 inches deep. I'm still losing skin.
You would really think that even if the sea levels were going up only 1 inch every 10 years then by now, low tide would be the original 6 inches plus another 5 to give me 11 inches deep at low tide. I don't lose skin at 11 inches deep so the difference is noticeable.
I came to the conclusion that the Tuvaluvians are stealing all our extra water to submerge their island so they can claim to be climate refugees and demand entry to Australia.
A message to all you Tuvaluvians,.. WE WANT OUR WATER BACK!

So far for the last 50 years I'm finding this claim of dangerously rising sea levels a long way short of convincing.
Unless the rate of rising drastically increases over its present rates, it's hard to see a 1 metre rise over the next 90 years as being realistic.


That must make you, like 100yo


Not quite. It just feels like it.
doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
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23 Nov 2012 5:46pm
pweedas said...
doggie said...
pweedas said...
Rising sea levels eh?
I was thinking about this over the last few weeks because we seem to have been having a lot of extra low tides.
I've surfed over the same reef for over 50 years.
50 years ago at low tide you would lose skin. The water sucks out to about 6 inches deep.
For the last few weeks at low tide, the water is still about 6 inches deep. I'm still losing skin.
You would really think that even if the sea levels were going up only 1 inch every 10 years then by now, low tide would be the original 6 inches plus another 5 to give me 11 inches deep at low tide. I don't lose skin at 11 inches deep so the difference is noticeable.
I came to the conclusion that the Tuvaluvians are stealing all our extra water to submerge their island so they can claim to be climate refugees and demand entry to Australia.
A message to all you Tuvaluvians,.. WE WANT OUR WATER BACK!

So far for the last 50 years I'm finding this claim of dangerously rising sea levels a long way short of convincing.
Unless the rate of rising drastically increases over its present rates, it's hard to see a 1 metre rise over the next 90 years as being realistic.


That must make you, like 100yo


Not quite. It just feels like it.


Your reflection defies your age
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24 Nov 2012 8:38pm
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